White Slavery in Britain and early America

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  1. Anders Hoveland

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    A famous history professor stated that history was not a science but a continuing investigation into the past; a person’s conclusion is based on their own bias. This story will offer evidence that the Alba, Scots, Irish and Pics have been the longest race held in slavery.

    Alexander Stewart was herded off the Gildart in July of 1747, bound with chains. Stewart was pushed onto the auction block in Wecomica, St Mary’s County, Maryland. Doctor Stewart and his brother William were attending the auction, aware of Alexander being on that slave ship coming from Liverpool England. Doctor Stewart and William were residents of Annapolis and brothers to David of Ballachalun in Montieth, Scotland. The two brothers paid nine pound six shillings sterling to Mr. Benedict Callvert of Annapolis for the purchase of Alexander. He was a slave. Alexander tells of the other 88 Scots sold into slavery that day in “THE LYON IN MOURNING” pages 242-243.

    Jeremiah Howell was a lifetime-indentured servant by his uncle in Lewis County, Virginia in the early 1700’s. His son, Jeremiah, won his freedom by fighting in the Revolution. There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred as early as 1630 in Scotland.

    According to the Egerton manuscript, British Museum, the enactment of 1652: "it may be lawful for two or more justices of the peace within any county, citty or towne, corporate belonging to the commonwealth to from tyme to tyme by warrant cause to be apprehended, seized on and detained all and every person or persons that shall be found begging and vagrant.. in any towne, parish or place to be conveyed into the Port of London, or unto any other port from where such person or persons may be shipped into a forraign collonie or plantation".

    The judges of Edinburgh Scotland during the years 1662-1665 ordered the enslavement and shipment to the colonies a large number of rogues and others who made life unpleasant for the British upper class. (Register for the Privy Council of Scotland, third series, vol. 1, p 181, vol. 2, p 101).

    The above accounting sounds horrific but slavery was what the Scots have survived for a thousand years. The early ancestors of the Scots, Alba and Pics were enslaved as early as the first century BC. Varro, a Roman philosopher stated in his agricultural manuscripts that white slaves were only things with a voice or instrumenti vocali. Julius Caesar enslaves as many as one million whites from Gaul. (William D Phillips, Jr. SLAVERY FROM ROMAN TIMES TO EARLY TRANSATLANTIC TRADE, p. 18).

    Pope Gregory in the sixth century first witnessed blonde hair, blue eyed boys awaiting sale in a Roman slave market. The Romans enslaved thousands of white inhabitants of Great Britain, who were also known as Angles. Pope Gregory was very interested in the looks of these boys therefore asking their origin. He was told they were Angles from Briton. Gregory stated, “Non Angli, sed Angeli.” (Not Angles but Angels).

    The eighth to the eleventh centuries proved to be very profitable for Rouen France. Rouen was the transfer point of Irish and Flemish slaves to the Arabian nations. The early centuries AD the Scottish were known as Irish. William Phillips on page 63 states that the major component of slave trade in the eleventh century were the Vikings. They spirited many ‘Irish’ to Spain, Scandinavia and Russia. Legends have it; some ‘Irish’ may have been taken as far as Constantinople.

    Ruth Mazo Karras wrote in her book, “SLAVERY AND SOCIETY IN MEDEIVEL SCANDINAVIA” pg. 49: "Norwegian Vikings made slave raids not only against the Irish and Scots (who were often called Irish in Norse sources) but also against Norse settlers in Ireland or Scottish Isles or even in Norway itself…slave trading was a major commercial activity of the Viking Age. The children of the White slaves in Iceland were routinely murdered en masse." (Karras pg 52)

    According to these resources as well as many more, the Scots-Irish have been enslaved longer than any other race in the world’s history. Most governments do not teach White Slavery in their World History classes. Children of modern times are only taught about the African slave trade. The Scots do not need to be taught because they are very aware of the atrocities upon an enslaved race.


    White Slavery in America

    White slavery in America was real. There are many documents that verify the bondage, kidnapping and transporting of British subjects to the Colonies as slaves.

    The Journal of Negro History #52 pp.251-273 states, “The sources of racial thought in Colonial America pertaining to slave trade worked both directions with white merchandise as well as black.”

    Thomas Burton recorded in his Parliament Diary 1656-1659 vol. 4 pp. 253-274 a debate in the English Parliament focusing on the selling of British whites into slavery in the New World. The debate refers to whites as slaves ‘whose enslavement threatened the liberties of all Englishmen.’

    The British government had realized as early as the 1640’s how beneficial white slave labor was to the profiting colonial plantations. Slavery was instituted as early as 1627 in the British West Indies. The Calendar of State Papers, Colonial Series of 1701 records 25000 slaves in Barbados in which 21700 were white slaves.

    George Downing wrote a letter to the honorable John Winthrop Colonial Governor of Massachusetts in 1645, “planters who want to make a fortune in the West Indies must procure white slave labor out of England if they wanted to succeed.” Lewis Cecil Gray’s History of Agriculture in the Southern United States to 1860 vol.1 pp 316, 318 records Sir George Sandys’ 1618 plan for Virginia, referring to bound whites assigned to the treasurer’s office. “To belong to said office forever. The service of whites bound to Berkeley Hundred was deemed perpetual.”

    The Quoke Walker case in Massachusetts 1773 ruled that; slavery contrary to the state Constitution was applied equally to Blacks and Whites in Massachusetts.

    Statutes at Large of Virginia, vol. 1 pp. 174, 198, 200, 243 & 306 did not discriminate Negroes in bondage from Whites in Bondage.

    Marcellus Rivers and Oxenbridge Foyle, England’s Slaves 1659 consists of a statement smuggled out of the New World and published in London referring to whites in bondage who did not think of themselves as indentured servants but as “England’s Slaves” and “England’s merchandise.”

    Colonial Office, Public Records Office, London 1667, no. 170 records that “even Blacks referred to the White forced laborers in the colonies as “white slaves.” Pages 343 through 346 of Historical Sketch of the Persecutions Suffered by the Catholics of Ireland by; Patrick F. Moran refers to the transportation of the Irish to the colonies as the “slave-trade.”

    Ulrich B. Phillips, Life and Labor in the Old South explain that white enslavement was crucial to the development of the Negro slave system. The system set up for the white slaves governed, organized and controlled the system for the black slaves. Black slaves were “late comers fitted into a system already developed.” Pp 25-26. John Pory declared in 1619, “white slaves are our principle wealth.”

    The above quotations from various authors are just the tip of the iceberg on the white slave trade of the Americas. People from the British Isles were kidnapped, put in chains and crammed into ships that transported hundreds of them at a time. Their destination was Virginia Boston, New York, Barbados and the West Indies. The white slaves were treated the same or worse than the black slave. The white slave did not fetch a good price at the auction blocks. Bridenbaugh wrote in his accounting (page 118), having paid a bigger price for the Negro, the planters treated the black better than they did their “Christian” white servant. Even the Negroes recognized this and did not hesitate to show their contempt for those white men who, they could see, were worse off than themselves.

    The schools and universities have allowed this part of American and British history to be ignored. Little to no mention is ever made of these accountings that are well established on to the middle 1800’s. It should be realised that the black race was not the only race in the last 400 years that was in bondage.
     
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    Pakistani sex gang on trial...
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    Oxford exploitation trial: Girl had 'back-room abortion'
    17 January 2013 - The nine men, from Berkshire and Oxfordshire, are accused of sexually exploiting six girls, aged between 11 and 15
     
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    Virginia and Maryland operated under what was known as the "HEADRIGHT SYSTEM." The leaders of each colony knew that labor was essential for economic survival, so they provided incentives for planters to import workers. For each laborer brought across the Atlantic, the master was rewarded with 50 acres of land. This system was used by wealthy plantation aristocrats to increase their land holdings dramatically. In addition, of course, they received the services of the workers for the duration of the indenture. This system seemed to benefit the servant as well. Each INDENTURED SERVANT would have their fare across the Atlantic paid in full by their master. A contract was written that stipulated the length of service — typically five years. The servant would be supplied room and board while working in the master's fields. Upon completion of the contract, the servant would receive "freedom dues," a pre-arranged termination bonus. This might include land, money, a gun, clothes or food. On the surface it seemed like a terrific way for the luckless English poor to make their way to prosperity in a new land. Beneath the surface, this was not often the case.

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    The trial is expected to last until April. The defendants are all in custody.

    The defendants are:

    Kamar Jamil, 27, of Aldwych Road, Oxford
    Akhtar Dogar, 32, of Tawney Street, Oxford; and his brother Anjum Dogar, 30, of Tawney Street, Oxford
    Assad Hussain, 32, of Ashurst Way, Oxford
    Mohammed Karrar, 38, of Kames Close, Oxford; and his brother Bassam Karrar, 33, of Hundred Acres Close, Oxford
    Mohammed Hussain, 24, of Horspath Road, Oxford
    Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, of Palmer Road, Oxford
    Bilal Ahmed, 26, of Suffolk Road, Maidenhead

    Notice a trend? Stop letting them in your country! Get rid of the ones there already. These people are depraved creatures. If this kind of thing happened in the states with any amount of coverage these guys would be dead in short order.

    Creatures like this sure make themselves easy to hate.
     
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    Read once about a law passed around 1650 in Virginia enslaving all the Irish in Virginia. Later found a deed for a plantation listing all the properties of the plantation including persons......along with the name of a great great grandfather. Later this grandfather was released and became rich having slaves of his own. He even had a whipping boy for one of his sons.
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    Early America was very class oriented and the common man citizen was expected to be God fearing, self reliant and free. The less government the freer the people and the freer the people the more prone free people are to circumstances out of their control. Much established government relied on family, Church and community for compassion. Nothing in the US constitution addresses compassion and all compassion now existing is a result of "the people's" choice to give up some freedom for security.

    With that in mind you can imagine how bad luck could effect a family whether from an accident or through actions associated with service to the nation. Wars, including the Revolutionary War to found America as a nation resulted in tens of thousands of orphans and single moms or families with incapacitated breadwinners raising children. The only compassion offered came from the extended family, Church and the community. With numbers of unfortunate exceeding the above source of compassion to satisfy in the case of war it was common place for parent (s) to sell their children into servitude to sustain the family. If you would like an idea of how commonplace this was then you only have to research former presidents Millard Fillmore and Andrew Johnson's youth to find out they both were indentured servants in their youth.
     
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    I'm not into the history of slavery. I do not understand the argument though. To my knowledge one the last European countries to fully outlaw slavery was the Papal-state. The pope was one of the biggest slave traders in the world back then. But negative facts are seldom popular and usually just ignored.

    I think the real issue is to define slavery, as weird as it may seem. I remember reading somebody suggested that if you must be able buy a person for it to be called "slavery". By this definition the concentration camp workers of WWII were no slaves to the Nazis. Which seems weird, because slavery to me would include the horrific WWII conditions for working prisoners in Germany. And I would argue that no group of "slaves" before was ever treated worse, and that is merely 70 years back in one of the most developed countries in the world at that point. Not to mention that most of their slaves were white too...
     
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    Yeah, indentured servants. Kind of learned about this already.
     
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    http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1853/03/12.htm

    This is a brief view from Marx.

    More at link.
     

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