White Student Union Says There is a Black on White Crime Probem

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  1. Franco

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    Why don't you refute what he's saying instead of calling him a racist?
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    Reality is that certain White Americans such as yourself (and others here on PF) should NOT be standing back scrutinizing and criticizing Blacks, rather than actually rolling up their sleeves and making America better for all. No "straw-man" whatsoever, just decent values and good sense.

    I know that falls on deaf ears, but the reality of it will come back to visit ALL citizens of this nation. No one escapes the problems they contribute to.
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    To me, the meaning of what he's saying is racist (adj.); if he's an actual "racist" (noun) I really would not know.
     
  4. Franco

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    What? So it sounds racist to say that blacks have every opportunity to get an education? And being fresh out of high school I can tell you that I witnessed the type of behavior outlined in his post.
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    Within the context of his nonsensical post, YES it does.
     
  6. Slyhunter

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    So what a white supremacist web site list black on white crimes so that means we should ignore it and pretend like it's not happening? I'm sure wherever you go that posts black on white crime will be reporting the same crime whether they are a white supremacist web site or not.
     
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    Hypocrisy. This is a political forum - we talk about political issues. Just as you point out what you find to be issues with this or that group, others point out problems but you, rather than trying to explain it (like pointong out that black crime is mostly due to poverty differences, familial issues aggravated by government policy etc.) you just put your head in a hole and deny it.
     
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    That individual is almost certainly a racist.

    So since you're a hyper-partisan, can we all just deny anything you say BECAUSE you're a partisan?
     
  9. dixon76710

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    I dont hate any of them. Why, which do you hate?
     
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    That and they think since the mainstream media is so silent on these hate crimes, the posters must have heard about them on these white racist sites.

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    Because he cant.
     
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    If you do a Google Search "Black on White Crime Victims Pics", Google will take to American Renaissance along with dozens of other web sites which are trying to bring U.S. the real story on what is happening in the epidemic of Black on White violence, a story which is being ignored and distorted by the coverage of the MSM.

    We hear about the Travon Martin case for hours, and hours, and hours, yet during the time from the Travon shooting, until the day of the trial verdict, literally hundreds of similar event occurred where the white victim was NOT armed, and was severely beaten or killed.

    For whatever reason, the MSM is NOT bringing U.S. that story. The FBI, despite some attempts to manipulate the statistics to bury the story, in their crime statistics, which are public domain, backs up the fact that the MSM is NOT reporting accurately on the Black on White violence.

    Those FBI crime statistics do show that Blacks are attacking Whites in incidents which end up being clearly racially motivated at 7-9 times the rate that Whites are Attacking Blacks. Given the fact that the Attacker chooses to initiate the conflict, not the victim, and there are 4 times as many Whites who could initiate conflicts, that means that Blacks are racist aggressors at around 35 times the rate of Whites. This is not a statistical anomaly.

    The FBI crime statistics will bring you the hard numbers on the story, but a Journalistic Story, one that reaches the hearts and minds of people unaware, takes pictures. Particularly in today's media saturated market place, if it doesn't have at least a picture, or better a video, most people simply ignore or never believe in the story.

    So where to go to get pictures or videos of a story the MSM is ignoring and/or suppressing?

    If it takes using resources from American Renaissance to get that story, that says allot more about the MSM, than it does myself, or the story itself.

    The story of a rapid rise in Black on White violence over the last two decades is real, all too real, as the FBI crime statistics bear out. If you want to tell that story in modern Journalistic media, you'll find the pictures and facts cataloged in web sites which don't get the "Liberal" stamp of approval.

    So be it.

    The story still needs to be told, and the violence need to be stopped.

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  12. Johnny-C

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    Maybe that's what you perceive... but no, I'm not here to be a hypocrite. And no, I won't pretend to be perfect.

    So, just say what you mean to say and don't get on my case; I'm not taking that sh__ off of you or anyone else.

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    That's what you say.
     
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    And look at that...Kurmugeon CONFIRMING what I said about "American Renaissance"....perhaps even admitting it is his source???

    And let's look at "American Renaissance" (magazine)---

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Renaissance_(magazine)

    What a lovely bunch of fellows, huh?
     
  14. Kurmugeon

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    What you're doing, is openly sneering, jeering, and laughing at the White Victims of racist violence, and then calling those who attempt to point out to you that such behavior is insensitive at best, racists, for using common google searches to find photos of the victims.

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    BTW, I GUESS a college graduate who was a member of a "White Student Union", MIGHT get a job with "American Renaissance" or "Stormfront"....or shaving heads or darning white sheets.


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  16. Kurmugeon

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    What I said was that I used a common Google Search, to quickly find pictures of the victims, which I had read about in other news coverage of the events.

    If the site that happens to have a picture of the victim happens to have been one Liberals don't approve of... to bad, its still the TRUTH, and its the story that counts, not you're flinging mud in every direction.

    Shall we all go back and look with a magnifying glass at every post you've made, looking for instances of using references which come from militant anti-white Hate Sites such as the NBPP, La Raza, or Mecha?

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    Johnny's pulling out the race card left and right on this thread. "Racist!" "Halt! That's racist!" "You're just ignorant." But not one real argument.

    Hey Johnny, how about you explain why black people don't have an opportunity to be educated, rather than just claiming the poster's comment was racist? For once, explain your thoughts about the subject. In detail.
     
  18. Johnny-C

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    No, I'm NOT doing that.

    I take violence (literally my profession) AND harmony between human beings quite seriously.

    If anything, I'm openly pointing out that people's perceptions of what is/isn't don't necessarily 'match'.

    Let the discussions continue.
     
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    Why don't you answer the question. Why don't blacks get an opportunity for an education?
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    This "thread" (and many like it) IS the "race card".

    You aren't fooling anyone.

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    Be sensible. If you can't see the racist nature of that comment... I don't have anything for you but contempt.
     
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    So explain to him why, don't just call it racist that doesn't do anything
     
  22. Kurmugeon

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    Now I'm a Racist in your mind?

    Why?

    Because I bring to light on this PF forum the issues of the injustice of Affirmative Action Racial Preferences?

    Because I bring to light on this PF forum the issues of the threat of growing Black on White Racially Motivated Violence?

    What have I said that shows I hold hatred for Blacks in general? Show me!

    There are other posters on this PF who DO openly admit to hating people of a given ethnicity, particularly hatred of Jews.

    I am not among them. I do not hold any hatred in my soul for people because of their race or ethnicity.

    If anything, I find people who hate by skin color silly. Its like hating a car because of the color it painted. Cars or People, Its a few molecules of pigment at the surface deep, and means nothing about the function, abilities and motivations underneath.

    I have contempt and anger at policies and programs which treat U.S. differently based on Race.

    I am a firm believer in the 14th Amendment, and the Right of all Americans to receive race neutral treatment and protection from our government.

    And as to the accusations often brought, that my "Racism" is proof that all "Conservatives" are racists... Well, a decade ago, I called myself a "Liberal" and I am still a registered member of the Democratic Party. ( though I'm unlikely to vote for any Democratic Candidate since... the Change!)

    Today, because of my stances of issues such as Abortion, Gay Rights, and Drug Legalization, most who mapped my positions, without the bias of looking at my posting history, would place me squarely in the Libertarian camp.

    If my posts show anything, you might be able to claim that I'm living proof that "Libertarians are Racists"... except that I really don't make Racist statements or positions.

    In the minds of SOME PF posters, anyone who posts in opposition to AA, and brings out the true story of today's Black on White Violence is a "Racist". So be it.

    If you want to view me as a "Racist" because of those position, that is your right, and you're welcome to do so.

    Just understand, that if you look closely at what I've said, in my long posting history here, I never have expressed hatred of anyone by race or ethnicity, because it is not in my soul.

    You will see a willingness to bravely and openly discuss and confront the hot button and socially hazardous racial issues of the day, such as the ongoing injustice of Affirmative Action and Black on White Violence.

    In my mind, that does not make me a Racist, it just makes me an outspoken defender of Justice.

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    I posted a somber and upsettingly graphic post in response to this:
    And you proceeded to pick apart, and take out of context my response, to paint me as a white supremacist.

    When you side with someone who is laughing at the plight of the White Victims of racial violence, and then sneer and jeer at the person who brings out the story, deliberately misrepresenting them ...

    You ARE "Openly sneering, jeering and laughing ...."

    Why can't you see that?

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    Thats what you demonstrate again and again. Anyone that disagrees with your silly view of the world is branded a racist, bigot or homophobe by you.
     
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    What is that now, 3 times he has responded to the question and 3 times he avoided answering the question
     

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