Well when you study history intensely you can trace it back further and you dont even have to pay some agency to find the results for you. its all free and that is all you need to know. oh and southern england is cool, theyre real british
Never paid anyone. Spent a year tracing ancestry with my dad before he died. Traveled a lot, met some great folks. Never made it to England but contacted a few distant relatives there. Notable ancestors. Ships surgeon on the Bonhomme Richard, the rest are scoundrels.
Yeh, them southerners are scoundrels but they are affectionate ones, always with the nation in their hearts. You can trace the real brits up from the south to the midlands along the west coast. these are the real scoundrels and heartbeat of britain. Shame you never made it considering you traveled a bit. one day, huh?
Maybe so. I only did the ancestry thing for my dad. Breezed through London with my wife once on a 24 hr lay over between Istanbul and Baltimore....Did the touristy thing...On and Off the double deckers. Tower, Parliament, Big Ben, Tower Bridge.
The general consensus from here in Britain itself, this has been studied recently, is that the Celtic Brits are descended from basque Spain. That is, the basque are not descended from celts. Basques are way older than celts. You have it backwards because I think your English is not as good as your Dutch. Maybe u should post this in Dutch forum and see what they say.
Well, I think maybe you know nothing about Spain... in fact, you are mistaking Basques and Vascones (today Navarre). Basques were a group of celtic tribes conquested by vascones in V century... About Dutch, I do not understand anything of what you mean. Molecular biology is not debatable. Celtic are: irish, spaniards, british, portuguese, french, belgian and dutch. Do you speak dutch? Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between 4,000 and 5,000BC. Regards. The issue is clear. The West european people don´t come from arabs.
Most Britons are direct descendants of farmers who left modern day Iraq and Syria 10,000 years ago, a new study has shown. After studying the DNA of more than 2,000 men, researchers say they have compelling evidence that four out of five white Europeans can trace their roots to the Near East. The discovery is shedding light on one of the most important periods of human history - the time when our ancient ancestors abandoned hunting and began to domesticate animals. The Leicester University study looked at a common genetic mutation on the Y chromosome, the DNA that is passed down from fathers to sons. They found that 80 per cent of European men shared the same Y chromosone mutation and after analysing how the mutation was distributed across Europe, were able to retrace how Europe was colonised around 8,000BC. Prof Mark Jobling, who led the study: 'This was at the time of the Neolithic revolution when they developed a new style of tools, symmetrical, beautiful tools. At this stage about 10,000 years ago there was evidence of the first settlements, people stopped being nomadic hunter-gatherers and started building communities. This also allowed people to specialise in certain areas of trade and make better tools because there was a surplus of food.' European farming began around 9,000 BC in the Fertile Crescent - a region extending from the eastern Mediterranean coast to the Persian Gulf and which includes modern day Iraq, Syria, Israel and southeast Turkey. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1244654/Study-finds-Britons-descended-farmers-left-Iraq-Syria-10-000-years-ago.html Figure 1. Maps showing dates of the spread of early farming in Europe, and the frequency and microsatellite variance of haplogroup R1b1b2. (A) Isochron map representing dates of early Neolithic sites in Europe, based on data of Pinhasi et al. (2005) [3]. KYBP, thousand years before present. (B) Geographical distribution of haplogroup frequency of hgR1b1b2, shown as an interpolated spatial frequency surface. Filled circles indicate populations for which microsatellite data and TMRCA estimates are available. Unfilled circles indicate populations included to illustrate R1b1b2 frequency only. Population codes are defined in Table 1. (C) Geographical distribution of mean microsatellite variance within hgR1b1b2, shown as an interpolated spatial frequency surface. Samples shown are those used for the calculation of variance only.
The first humans came from Africa. The humans that left Africa and populated the other continents of the world must have traveled east in to Southwest Asia, what we now call the Middle East. So the first Eurasians came from the Middle East which means Europeans and Asians came from the Middle East. That's a true enough statement but you could also say that Europeans are descended from Africans. As populations migrate they have to come from somewhere to got to the next location. I don't think this fact is a relevant issue to White Supremacists who are Islamophobic and Arabophobic. They hate people of different races and ethnic groups because of physical appearance which they believe correlates with mental traits and culture. To combat racism I think we should focus on the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the ideology.
What do you think of Chinese supremacism/opposition to replacement? Also, by the logic of this thread the Chinese are "descended from Arabs". Do the Chinese owe Arabs special treatment? Also do we all owe chimpanzees, amoebae and bacteria special treatment?
You can just about add the rest of the world with the Chinese. Its funny how only whites are expected to accept this nonsense, only they have no race, traditions or culture yet strangely everyone else does. All dogs come from wolves yet i dont hear anyone saying dog breeds are a social construct. Then off course as you rightly point out, we came from chimps/apes and ultimately ALL life from the first living cell. Are we to believe the difference between a human and tree or a whale, bird ect simply social constructs? Theres one reason why we get this rubbish pushed upon us so heavily in the West, the West is the birthplace of Marxist scum.
Archeologist know that people crossed the Red Sea from East Africa into the Arabian Peninsula 130,000 years ago and domesticated horses. There is a long thread on the subject.
so called whites are in fact asians that spread into europe and developed pale skin. technically, europeans are asians but with out the brown skin [and goodlooking features ]
"Somewhere between the Middle East and the Indian Subcontinent": is Persia, also called Iran, and it's people are called ARYANS. So Jonah is, apparently, a Nazi, right? Hey, not me saying it. (Oh, and it's Caucausus, not Caucus, Caucus is some sort of Congressional thingy) I think that 10,000 must have a been a misprint, 100,000 sounds better. 10,000 is just WAY less than I've ever heard of for when races originated. It might apply to the English coming to there from Syria, I dunno,, but even on that I recall reading somewhere that one of the Bog people was once dated to around 9,000 years ago, and their DNA was pretty close to people that were there now .
Jesus Christ Almighty, now MARXISTS are their own race? All dogs being wolves are something of a special case brought about by man's breeding of different varieties for different purposes, even Darwin remarked on that. If mankind illustrates anything it's that an intelligent species SHOULDN'T have races. All successful species tend to differentiate into many different species. Mankind started to, once we spread over the entire globe, but then we stopped, largely because we're the only animals smart enough to see the benefits of living together, and whoever you live with, you're going to have sex with.
It's only Whites that "see the benefits of living together" or more correctly are brainwashed into that by Zionist supremacists.