Democrats are rowing the boat in two directions! One Democrat oarsman is pulling this way: DeFazio is using illegal aliens stealing American jobs to push a law requiring everyone to carry a card with our identification info electronically encrypted on it. This is called E-verify. Ostensibly, illegals wont have one, and thus wont be hired. The problem is that this amounts to a national ID card, and with just a bit of fascist tweaking, it becomes a powerful tool of totalitarian dictatorship. Does, Let me see your papers! ring a bell? But I digress. Endemic Corruption Michael Oberndorf, RPA Saturday, November 5, 2011 http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42074 While Democrat Congressman Ellison is pulling this way: . . . H.R. 3317, which would allow people to walk into a polling location, register and vote immediately, Ellison said his intent is to curb "voter suppression." "The Same Day Registration Act would require states to provide for same day voter registration for a federal election. The Voter Access Protection Act would make sure election officials cannot require photo identification in order to cast a vote or register to vote," he said. Voting without photo ID pushed for all 50 states Just walk into a polling location, register, cast ballot immediately Posted: November 04, 2011 9:10 pm Eastern By Bob Unruh http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=364093 The American people lose no matter which way the boat goes. The idea of a national identity card is not new. They were called papers in countless movies about Nazi Germany. When I was a kid during WWII, I always wondered if the Japanese people had to carry papers? The movies never said. Tying identity cards to illegal immigrants is the latest wrinkle in the governments bid for total control. A national ID card designed to stop illegal immigration is pie in the sky legislation. By definition, a national ID card must be carried. Law-abiding Americans are the only ones who will comply. Illegal aliens will either produce a phoney, or produce nothing at all, knowing they wont be deported or even arrested. No one has to read national ID legislation when it is written to know that immigration enforcement will not be included. NOTE: Even if ordinary counterfeiters are stymied, foreign governments have the technology, the means, and the motive to produce fake E-verify cards. Not only that, illegals can carry phoney papers stating they are foreign tourists or some such thing. Enforcement is so confusing: Man avoids jail by faking illegal immigrant status November 4, 2011 SALT LAKE CITY (AP) A Utah man hatched a creative scheme to avoid going to prison on a drug charge: He lied to authorities and said he was an illegal immigrant so he could get deported to Mexico and evade time behind bars. The jig was up, however, when 27-year-old Jaime Alvarado returned to the U.S. using his passport and was arrested again by Salt Lake City police. http://post-journal.com/page/conten...llegal-immigrant-status-.html?isap=1&nav=5029 Democrat DeFazio is after the same old totalitarian dream of identity papers. Once the government has a national ID it wont be long before Americans need permission to travel, to buy food, and God only knows what else. Right now, Americans are not required to carry identity papers of any kind. In fact, they do not have to carry their drivers license when driving. Owning a drivers license is sufficient as far as I know. So the charge of Driving without a license is false if you have one but do not have it with you when you are stopped. To be precise the charge would have to be Not carrying a drivers license. That brings us right back to Show me your papers. If you think Im exaggerating look at the SS card. It was never supposed to be a form of identity, yet it is a required form of ID more and more. Some states even require a SS card when applying for, or renewing, a drivers license. So far, no cop asks for your SS card, yet how many times have you seen a movie or TV show where the police stop someone and ask the driver for their drivers license? Generations of such scenes trained Americans to think they must produce their identity papers upon demand. The hook is the financial cost the government will lay on you if you decide to fight against carrying your drivers license. Few Americans can afford to fight the government for what appears to be a trivial Right; i.e., the Right to NOT carry identity papers. Trivial or not, Eric Hoffers quote following my signature puts it in perspective. Legislating a national ID card is not necessary to stop illegal immigration. Strict enforcement of immigration laws already on the books followed by serious fines levied on anyone who hires an illegal alien is all that is required to remove the incentive to come here illegally. Effectively closing the borders will reduce the number of border-jumpers to an easily-managed level; especially if state and local police are given the authority to detain illegals until the federal government picks them up. The cost of capturing and detaining illegals should be paid by the federal government. Picking up the tab with tax dollars will anger taxpayers all the more. That, in turn, will encourage the federal government to actually do something about illegal immigration. In addition, illegals should be deported immediately. Let them fight deportation at their own expense, and from their native lands, rather than doing it here at the expense of American taxpayers which is the case now. The amnesty crowd will punish law-abiding Americans by implementing a national ID card under the pretense of dealing with illegal immigration. The ACLU The excerpt comes from an article by Laura Meckler: "It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people's privacy," said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We're not only talking about fingerprinting every American, treating ordinary Americans like criminals in order to work. We're also talking about a card that would quickly spread from work to voting to travel to pretty much every aspect of American life that requires identification." MARCH 9, 2010 By Laura Meckler http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...4.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird Id like to know how many tax dollars the ACLU rakes in defending illegal aliens and preventing rapid deportation? Only idiots would believe that the ACLU is against government control. If the ACLU is against a national identity card there has to be a reason other than . . . a massive invasion of people's privacy." The ACLU has been the leader in perverting the Constitution in the courts in order to bring this country to socialism. The ACLUs stated reason for opposing a national identity card should not be taken at face value. E-verify Frankly, identity papers is one of the most dangerous items on every totalitarian governments wish list. Democrats have been working towards implementing it for so long, I fear it may be unstoppable. If dealing with illegal immigrants is the true goal of E-verify the legislation should specify that it must only be shown to a perspective employer when applying for a job. Under no circumstance is it to be used for any other purpose, nor is carrying it required. Id go so far as to include criminal penalties for any government official that asks to see the E-verify card for any reason. Dont expect to see my suggestions put into legislation. The Constitution was written to limit government and look where that went. No Democrat is going to allow legislation that restricts the governments authority. There is a ton of information on the topic in the following links that is worth looking at: Forced national ID card attached to every American worker Get ready for the know all, see all national ID card ..plus, plus By Dr. Laurie Roth Thursday, March 11, 2010 http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/20881 March 10, 2010 Show me your papers Lee DeCovnick http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/show_me_your_papers.html Vote early and often Theres not much I can say about Congressman Ellisons objective that isnt obvious. Show up on election day and you can vote for the Democrat. The more voting places you go to the more votes you cast. Who is to know since nothing is required? I am curious about one thing. Will Democrats apply E-verify to voters? Ellison and Defazio will have to start rowing the boat in the same direction on that one.
Saying e-verify is like carrying papers is intellectually dishonest at best, and a flat out lie at worst. http://www.ncsl.org/?tabid=13127 http://www.clemson.edu/employment/professionals/e-verify_faq.html http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=45bb787476728210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=4a1e787476728210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD http://staffingtalk.com/does-e-verify-work/ All the system does is check if you are authorized to work. Saying this is like carrying papers would be saying your ss number is like carrying papers... I use it every time I have a new hire
To cd8ed: Why do liars begin a response by calling somebody else a liar? If youre not lying to make your case you lack reading comprehension skills: DeFazio is using illegal aliens stealing American jobs to push a law requiring everyone to carry a card with our identification info electronically encrypted on it. This is called E-verify. And this: Right now, Americans are not required to carry identity papers of any kind. And this: If you think Im exaggerating look at the SS card. It was never supposed to be a form of identity, yet it is a required form of ID more and more. Some states even require a SS card when applying for, or renewing, a drivers license. And no less of a liberal organization than the ACLU says this: "It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people's privacy," said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We're not only talking about fingerprinting every American, treating ordinary Americans like criminals in order to work. We're also talking about a card that would quickly spread from work to voting to travel to pretty much every aspect of American life that requires identification." I hate to agree with the ACLU on anything, but they have it right in this case. If nothing else there is the obvious question: Why must Americans carry, or even get, an E-verify card in order to deal with illegal immigration? Obvious answer: Democrats do everything incrementally. It matters not where it starts, it will end up with every American carrying a national ID card that must be produced on demand. Hopefully, this final quote from the OP will vanquish your lack of reading comprehension skills the second time you read it: Frankly, identity papers is one of the most dangerous items on every totalitarian governments wish list.
I am all in favor of deporting undocumented immigrants and taking away birth right citizenship. And it is good to hear that the left is taking up the issue. But what DeFazio proposes is very concerning and a potential threat to civil liberties. There must be some other way...
The government already tells people which races they can hire. If all good job applicants just happen to be white and asian, the business gets sued and fined. If you feel that flamboyant transexual job applicant just will not fit in in your workplace and will make everyone feel awkward, you are just out of luck if you live in a "progressive" province like California or British Columbia.
While that would not bother me at all, I am against the use of police powers to force associations or to prevent them regardless of the reason or intent.
Foxes watchin' the henhouse... GAO: 144 Border Agents Charged with Corruption, Smuggling Aliens and Drugs Since 2005 January 10, 2013 In the last seven years, 144 officers and agents with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) have been arrested or indicted on corruption charges that include smuggling illegal aliens, smuggling drugs, and bribery, according to a report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO).
