Who Are You Voting For and Why?

gosh...so what have they been filibustering at an unprecedented rate, I wonder?

Look... we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this. I personally think that republicans in congress are all slimebags with the exception of perhaps Oly Snowe and Susan Collins....and I know you feel the same way about democrats. That's just the way we are and what we believe. I personally hope that I outlive George W. Bush so that I can go visit his grave site and urinate on it... you, obviously, don't like our current president. I laid out my reasons for why I am going to vote for Obama again this time and you obviously have your reasons why you will be voting for Mittens. We've answered the question posed by the OP. We disagree. That should wrap this up.

 

Not the center but you're like my personal court jester so I do find you amusing!
The problem you have (and don't feel alone) is that you're a mindless whackjob sheeple who doesn't think for yourself.
I can prove this about you.
You can NOT prove this about me.
That would be the difference between us.
So although it's not polite to laugh at those who are mentally inferior, with you I don't feel guilty about it.

 

Our economy is cyclical in nature, there are always "bubbles" and the economy adjusts itself through slowdowns and yes recessions. It what Congress and Presidents do about them that matter. In the case of the housing collapse, it didn't have to collapse. The Democrat housing scheme brought that about and Obama and the Democrats have failed to deal with it. The Clinton administration helped to bring about the dot.com collapse when it went after Microsoft trying to break it up scaring investors across the IT board. Bush handled the slowdown and recovery correctly, lowering tax rates, not threatening with new regulations and government take overs and then getting out of the way.

Because of the uncertainty and lack of confidence in the future if we have another Obama term. Numbers out today just horrible, only 80,000 new jobs last month.

 

He got everything he wanted the first two years and with a veto proof Senate he could have gotten more. What obstructionism?

As if the Democrats didn't do everything they could to make Bush a one term President?

Obama had a full Democrat Congress his first two years as President, he in fact had a full Democrat Congress the three years before when he was in the Senate. So for five years he had a Democrat controlled Congress to work from within or to work with as President. He still has a Democrat Senate, and HE ran as the great uniter, the man who could bring everyone together. Yet he is the one who doesn't even talk to them and makes no effort to negotiate with them and ignores the bills sent to the Senate just as Reid does so.

 

They can bring spending and budget bills to a majority vote through reconciliation preventing a filibuster.

 

You cannot run away from the unprecedented use of the filibuster by the republicans in the Senate. And you act as if the existence of DINOS like Nelson, Landrieu, Pryor, Lieberman and Lincoln did not make a mockery of GOP claims of a filibuster-proof senate.

You also make yourself look foolish by attempting to compare the level of democratic cooperation with Bush to that of the GOP with Obama. Bush got a LOT of what he wanted done - from tax cuts for millionaires to fighting an unnecessary war in Iraq - with democratic cooperation. Obama has had NONE of that.

 

You cannot run to it and there are enough RINO's that with negotiations the Democrats could get bills passed. They simply will not propose any. And spending can be done with a simply majority.

 

sure...like the five months we wasted negotiating with the likes of Snowe, Grassley, and Enzi.

 

The lameness of your filibuster whine is disgusting. b.o. continues to ask for more spending to follow the same failed policies. All the while he HAS had in his possession a different and proven set of policies since Dec. 2010. And what do the Republicans ask over and over about legislation obama wants. "Where do we get the money?" NEVER any answer except MORE DEBT. Is that unreasonable to ask, "You want more spending, Where do we get the money?"

And Bush's tax cuts for millionaires is pure liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*) propaganda. The top incomes were reduced from 39.6% to 35% An 11% drop. EVERY other tax bracket received a larger tax cut. The bottom end got a 33% tax cut, plus EITC, plus doubling the child credit, plus more. Net, the "rich" saved $70 billion per year. That's a number publicized by Democrats not Republicans. And the middle class saved $300 billion per year. ADDITIONALLY the VERY last act by b.o. and a Democratically controlled Congress [12/2010] was to EXTEND AND INCREASE those tax cuts. How do you explain that? What b.o. did is keep the tax cuts AFTER saying he would never keep them, and then he upped the ante by ROBBING from future Social Security funding to try to buy votes from the grossly stupid today. That's exactly what obama's "Payroll Tax Holiday" does, is rob from SS. Within just a few months of b.o. Payroll Tax Holiday" SS announces that the SS funds would go bankrupt 2 years sooner. HOW is that a good thing. Bush had federal revenues going up and deficits going down. How can Democrats argue with that. Cooperation??? They rejected Bush budget proposal in FY 2008 and never agreed amongst THEMSELVES to a budget until Mar 2009. That budget was SUPPOSED to be in place by Apr 2008 and go into effect on Oct 1st 2008. Instead b.o. signed the FY 2009 budget in Mar 2009 with only 6 months left in the FY and we had our first TRILLION DOLLAR deficit. $1.4 trillion. Democrats passed the Stimulus, obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and they extended unemployment benefits to 2 years with not any way to pay ANY of those bills. They SHOULD be filibustered until they are 100% hamstrung.

 

In an effort to maintain civility - an effort you have apparently abandoned - I will simply repost the second paragraph from my post #215:

Look... we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this. I personally think that republicans in congress are all slimebags with the exception of perhaps Oly Snowe and Susan Collins....and I know you feel the same way about democrats. That's just the way we are and what we believe. I personally hope that I outlive George W. Bush so that I can go visit his grave site and urinate on it... you, obviously, don't like our current president. I laid out my reasons for why I am going to vote for Obama again this time and you obviously have your reasons why you will be voting for Mittens. We've answered the question posed by the OP. We disagree. That should wrap this up.

 

The largest increase in US debt in the shortest time in history. More than $5 TRILLION in 3.5 years.

The longest period of time 40 months with unemployment over 8% in history. INCLUDING THE "GREAT DEPRESSION."

The only president to EVER have a TRILLION dollar deficit. NO OTHER PRESIDENT ever had a defciit half that high. And obama will have had 4 TRILLION PLUS deficits by election day.

The most devisive, derisive president in history.
The most broken promises.
The most corruption.
The most lies.

And that's what you're voting for. And you want to "agree to disagee" like a little girl with a wet diaper.

b.o. is the worst thing that has happened politically to this nation.

I will not agree to do anything but to get this scumbag unAmerican charlatan fired.

My vote is against obama, FOR anyone else. Romney happens to be the one.

National survival is not a time for civility.

 

I disagree with your OPINION of the president's performance. And I am through with your petty internet insults. Every tough guy on the internet has huge muscles and is quite imposing... in real life... not so much. For my money, you are simply a rude and obnoxious - and increasingly boring - poseur. GFY. AMF.

 

These are NOT opinions. These are FACTS.

The largest increase in US debt in the shortest time in history. More than $5 TRILLION in 3.5 years.

The longest period of time 40 months with unemployment over 8% in history. INCLUDING THE "GREAT DEPRESSION."

The only president to EVER have a TRILLION dollar deficit. NO OTHER PRESIDENT ever had a defciit half that high. And obama will have had 4 TRILLION PLUS deficits by election day.

You can run from the truth.

And huge muscles? Did I ever threaten you? I state facts and you run away. I state opinions based on provable facts and you run away.. Why would I even think about threatening you, as you're running away? Does truth scare you?

The BLS reported today. Unemployment still at 8.2% and only 80,000 new jobs in June. NEW unemployment claims AVERAGING above 376,000 each WEEK of June totaling OVER 1.5 MILLION new unemployment claims in June vs 80,000 new jobs. IS THAT MY OPINION? Or evidence of b.o. complete incompetence?

 

I am not questioning your numbers. I am disagreeing with your opinion that those things are all as a result of President Obama... or his supposed incompetence. He inherited a deep and smelly bucket of feces as we were plummeting over a financial cliff and has had ZERO help from the GOP in trying to dig his way out of it. Sort of like blaming FDR for high unemployment during the great depression when it was the policies of the Hoover administration that got us into that mess in the first place. Because, as we know...the GOP is on record as wanting him to fail. The GOP has decided that letting the country fail for four years is better for them politically than risking helping Obama to succeed.

And no... you never "threaten" anyone... you just are inappropriately and harshly insulting for no reason. If you want to have a mature conversation with someone, you probably ought to avoid calling them "disgusting" or "little girls with wet diapers".... does that make any sense? I daresay, you wouldn't speak that way to someone in person... especially someone, say, much bigger and stronger than you.... so your continually doing so on here implies that you are the sort of person who would be perfectly OK with being an insulting prick in person no matter who you were talking to... a cyber tough guy, in other words. It fails to leave me with a positive impression, to say the least.

 

LOL of COURSE! It was ONLY the Dems fault! Too funny!

 

Everything that happened was Bush's fault. Bush went from good times to bad times AFTER Dems took control of both houses of Congress, but it was all Bush's fault. You cannot name or even suggested a single piece of legislation that Bush wanted or got passed that was the cause. But it is still Bush's fault.

obama takes over with complete control of Congress. Republicans are the minority in both Houses. Sometimes Democrats have a SUPER majority, able to invoke closure any time they wish. b.o. gets his STIMULUS. B.O. VIOLATES BANKRUPTCY LAWS AND nationalizes GM and Chrysler. b.o. gets Dodd-Frank, over-regulating the financial industry. A completely unnecessary set of EXPENSIVE, job killing regulations. It WAS NOT a lack of regulations that caused the financial crash, IT WAS A TOTAL LACK OF ANY ATTEMPT AT ENFORCEMENT. And other than collecting the fees, fines, and taxes in Dodd-Frank, it will not be enforced either. And b.o. got his unemployment benefits extension and increased tax cuts. And b.o. gets obamacare, the nationalization of both the health care and the health insurance industries. And the utter failure of obamacare is already EVIDENT to every non liberal American. The MAJORITY of Americans were against obamacare BEFORE it was passed and still ARE!

But b.o. GOT all of that, and still you whiny excuse making fools try TO CONTINUE TO CLAIM ITS NOT HIS FAULT. barrack hussein obama has been the person in charge since Jan 2009. He has been given in excess of SIX TRILLION DOLLARS OF WASTEFUL, USELESS SPENDING and it is almost certain that WHEN the 2nd quarter GDP report comes out it will OFFICIALLY start the new, obama recession. That's what the economists that b.o. holds so dear say. 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth signal the start of a new recession. It is all but certain with Junes jobs report. Yet you wet diapered excuse making whiny liberals wail that it is not the fault of the person in charge for the last 3.5 years. You cannot name a single thing Bush did to cause it. You cannot name a multitude of things that Bush did to cause it. And I just listed EVERY MAJOR fix that obama GOT. And the economy is sliding away again. But its not the fault of the person in charge for the last 3.5 years. I hear idiotic little girly whines and excuses and you demand I talk to you nicely, GFY. You are part of the mob of numbskulls that elected this incompetent failed pariah. You're getting more respect than you deserve now.

But I'll ask this nicely.

IF it is not the fault of the person in charge for the last 3.5 years. The person that has got everything he wanted. The person that has spent $$14,372,600,000,000.00 in ONE TERM. $$5,332,800,000,000.00 of that being NEW DEBT!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Then who's fault is it? The Mayor of Stockton?

You claim to be retired Navy. When sailors in the Navy engaged in stupid, irrational behavior, did they get treated HARSHLY? MORE so than verbally? Or is today's Navy made up of girly-men that soil their whites at an unkind word?

You cannot defend the incompetent clown you elected, so you say I'm not nice. Hell NO! I'm not nice. This nation is in serious trouble. NICE will have to wait until we are out of trouble. Oh and you can stick POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE.

 

I'm voting against the corporate billionaire that destroyed American jobs and bankrupted others for personal profit.

 

You've voting the way your brainwashing has instructed you to vote.

 

I'll vote for either Paul or Johnson, or write in either of them.

No way will I vote for either Obama or Romney...

I didn't vote for Obama the first time because I didn't like how he represented himself throughout

I won't vote for Romney because like Obama...he's not honest...

 

There are millions of EXCUSES for failure.

Success needs no excuses.

 

Romney. I've been a Romney supporter for a very long time. It's not as if I agree with his every waking decision, but he's what our country needs at this point. a) I'd love a libertarian like Paul, but libertarians (like Paul) are notorious for their inability to negotiate, and Romney has shown a shrewd calculated ability to negotiate for as much as he can get. b) Romney is a financial genius, and everywhere he's been he has been able to fix budgets and turnaround businesses. We need someone who understands numbers (unlike Obama) and can help our businesses prosper but, more importantly, reform our finances and fix our budget. c) Though he has little foreign policy experience, Romney has (through his writings and speeches) shown genius in military affairs, and has shown an uncanny brilliance in his ability to read into the policies of foreign governments.

In short, I support Romney because he's good on the economy and defense/foreign policy. I'm not a huge fan of him on social issues, I don't honestly know where he'll go on social issues other than gay marriage. In all actuality, I don't much care where a politician stands on the social issues right now. We're constantly at war, our economy is in the (*)(*)(*)(*)ter, and we have the worst deficits we've ever had - by far.

 

This is a GREAT post! After the whackjobs who simply blame all of America's problems on Obama (and worse, the total whackjobbery that NONE of the current problems of our economy were caused by the GOP), you make legitimate points, cite specific policy areas and even acknowledge that Romney's not perfect.
I completely respect your vote and reason for your pick.
I don't agree with some of what you've written but I don't agree with ANYONE on everything. Nice post.

 

Gary Johnson, because I'm a libertarian, and Obama and Romney are the same garbage.

 

Lol, Romney would be horrible on foreign policy.

 

Based on WHAT factual information? In the Olympic Games, Romney had to deal with every nation on the globe. What prior foreign policy experience did/does b.o. have? None.

At times the USA has been feared. At times hated more than usual. Under obama the USA is ignored and laughed at.