Who believes in God/s

Who was it that said "The world will eventually be destroyed by Religion and Patriotism"
I cant say I agree or disagree with that, but it is thought provoking....
I believe in the gambling Gods and the Fishing Gods and there definitely
isnt a Golfing God, as Lee Trevino once said "Even God cant hit a one iron"
At least gamblers break even as Kenny Rogers sang....

Aaah well..whats gunna win the next...

 

I don’t believe in the Catholic/Christian God. I personally believe the Catholic religion is based entirely on plagiarised Egyptian and Sumerian religions. Every conceivable minute aspect of the Catholic/Christian God and religion can be directly traced back to having its roots firmly established in a prior Egyptian religion or the Sumerian religion. The Catholic/Christian God and religion never added anything new to their religion that wasn’t already previously done or had been prophesised either by an Egyptian religion or the Sumerian religion. The Egyptian and Sumerian religions already prophesised a “God” coming down from the sky; an immaculate conception and a great flood - long before the Hebrew God was ever invented.

Christians/Catholics are always advocating their “God” is a God of love; compassion; mercy and infinite understand. As per their own written doctrine: I personally don’t see love; compassion; mercy and understanding about their God sending a “death plague” upon Egypt to kill all first born Egyptians - including innocent children and babies, because a Pharaoh refuses to release Jew’s from slavery.

An omnipotent being that created the Universe; and the only method this being can think of to force a Pharaoh into releasing slaves, is to kill innocent children and babies.

If I had the power of “Q” or omnipotent power, I think I could come up with something more constructive to force a Pharaoh into releasing slaves than murdering innocent children and babies, and I’m yet to make my first planet. LOL

Every civilisation dating back thousands of years have their God phenomenon of these omnipotent beings coming from the sky for some reason or another. There is some sound logic to suggest that ancient cultures could have only perceived advanced technology as something belonging to Gods.

I have always believed, and I always will; that religions and Governments are the most dangerous and destructive inventions humanity has ever inflicted upon itself.

 

All religions and even God are man made. Whether there is a God after all, that I don't know. Maybe, maybe not.
But I do agree we stuff up our world, and no political system is top notch.......

 

The human race doesn`t even know much about the planet Mars. How can anyone really say what is, or isn`t out there?

 

Money and greed is the destructive force in society, religion is used as a smoke screen.

 

Not as we know it, but I've never seen any God cause any wars, just people using a concept as justification... but religion will always be a petri-dish for delusion to appear and spread - but I don't blame the petri-dish.

 

Money, power and greed is generated by religions and their leaders. Look at the obscene wealth surrounding the Vatican City and all the little minions living within it. These same obscene wealthy scum-bags have the audacity to tell some poor African villager who makes $1 a week they cannot use a condom, and have to give birth to a child that will probable end up starving to death.

Some people then have the audacity to condemn Islam and its God as being vicious and brutal, but ignore how terrifying and brutal Catholicism and Christianity and its God is.

Talk about being a pack of hypocrites.

Religions: a group of greedy scum-bags who elevated a fictional character to the realm of omnipotence to elevate themselves above everyone else.

Politicians/Governments: a group of greedy scum-bags who elevated themselves above everyone else.

Surely in the 21 Century, people have had enough of the constant authoritarianism and being treated like bloody slaves. This master slave relationship only continues because of religions and Governments.

 

They are rich because they've been running for over a thousand years and used to 'be' the government of the entire European civilization. I think your selectively ignoring the massive amount of good that the RC Church does.... or perhaps you just have an uninformed opinion? The 'advice' given by the Vatican is for spirituality, not for physicality or governance. Its like going to your mechanic to check for lung cancer.

In the Vatican's opinion it is spiritually more correct to ... insert Vatican advice on sexuality here. They are not saying its best for the society, though they would argue that a focus on spirituality is best for society. People just blame them for everything because its easy for dingbats to mix the two, and they used to once actually also run the place, but now society has advanced enough that they were able to leave behind the mundane duties of the governance to focus on welfare... which if you didnt know is what they spend most of their money on.

Wait... did you just puppet an invented, invalid argument and use it to justify how bad 'God' is!? LOL

 

That's what I like to see,, a well researched, logical and non biased response. Pity I didn't see one.
Christians are so envious of Muslim dedication and spirituality, something they lost long ago

 

Your just projecting your posting against others. I understand it might make you feel big doing that, but there is a lot of that useless finger pointing from ALP supporters of late, as if an extension of their beloved ALP's behaviour. Their dear leaders behaviour is starting to rub off on them. At least my post was on topic and conversational... Oh wait you said something else....

Oh come now, your post betray's your bias. It's not a race to see who pray's the most. There are plenty of communities around the world who are overtly devout Christian. The Christian church would probably like to see everybody more spiritual but apparently even Jesus knew their was a practical limit. I'd think many Muslim's are WAY TOO religious and their dedication to it has gone beyond that practical limit for no net benefit. If you actually think Islam is a better spiritual pathway as its exists now, then I'd say your deliberatly being oblivious to the world around you for the sake of being argumentative. In which case your first sentence makes more sense.... your 'definatly' projecting.

 

LOL, what makes you think I am an ALP supporter, I have never voted ALP in my life. Most of my votes over my life I would say went to the Liberal/National Party. They were the best on offer where I was enrolled at that time. I am not a sheep like you appear to be, blindly following all the garbage that is spews from the mouth of the media. I vote for a person, not an agenda or an ideal. I vote for someone who I have seen will do what they feel is best for the electorate. This has of late nearly always been an independent as I have no faith in party politics at all.

Your reply is not on topic, it's pushing the Abbott barrow as usual, mine was, it was about God and religion, you brought the politics into it.

I have no bias, I believe man created God, not the other way around. I just observe.

 

Did all the biodiversity on Earth come from one single worm in the sea? Nahhh that's just as stupid as any other theory of mans origin.

Did we come from monkeys? How come monkeys these days dont evovle into men? That sounds abit crazy too, i will watch the planet of the apes tonight for some answers.

Did a supreme being make us? Dont know, since we haven't even been to the moon yet who knows whats really out there? And the landing on mars looks like the Mojave desert California.

The greeks had their gods on mount olympus you know Zeus, Athena, Aphrodite etc etc and in Athens they erected statues to all of them, but they left one pedestal without any statue on it and engraved it to the unknown god, hhhhhhhmmm did they know somthing? we dont!

Cause to be right here now and to observe all of mother nature on Earth and to consider how the whole ecosystem works and where we are in relation to the sun and our solar system and our galaxy and our universe.

Is truely a miracle.

I believe in something and i know its out there call it God or whatever else you want, i've never seen it but through the struggles of life i think i have felt it.

helelua to the supreme being that made this possible where ever he or she is.

You know one thing that sways me to beleive in Jesus is not one jew or roman come out and claimed that his healings were false, you know like the stuff we see coming out of the US, where the sick and suffering are selected for the role.

Some how i recon it could be possible? and if it was all you christians better get that icon of Jesus having blue eyes and blond hair out of your minds, cause he was born in the middle east.

I only have one question to ask him (Jesus), why reveal your self to the world in this strange way?

 

It's as hard to believe in evolution as it is to believe in creation. The planet and all existent life requires perfect timing and a perfect mix of elements. There is a 30mil:1 chance of winning powerball, with a combination of 40 numbers. I mean .......dammmnn the odds to earth and life functioning like it does from chance are incalculable IMO. The odds of there being creation as opposed to evolution, you would have to consider to be a 50:50 chance. Science doesn't disprove creation and creation can't disprove science. All theologies apparently derive from the one source, is this true? Anyway, at the end of the day I don't know what I believe. Maybe I'll see most of you in hell or heaven or maybe I'll never ever see you, who knows!! Who started this dang thread?

 

A big problem for non Muslims is the fact, that their religion (Islam) is always above any political system, any government. I think a proper dialogue hasn't even started in their world.

 

Their cult prevents any sensible dialogue of any kind, they are salves to their own dogma.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_AIDS

 

You think they do good? Tell that to the millions who were infected with AIDS and who have died, because that bastard POPE wouldn't allow people to wear a condom... By the way; the bastard did say his simple opinion WAS BEST FOR SOCIETY.


Pope John Paul II

John Paul II's position against artificial birth control, including the use of condoms to prevent the spread of HIV,[8] was harshly criticised by doctors and AIDS activists, who said that it led to countless deaths and millions of AIDS orphans.[9] Critics have also claimed that large families are caused by lack of contraception and exacerbate Third World poverty and problems such as street children in South America.

On 15 November 1989, John Paul II addressed the 4th International Conference of the Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Health Care Workers[10] in the following terms : it seems profoundly damaging to the dignity of the human being, and for this reason morally illicit, to support a prevention of AIDS that is based on a recourse to means and remedies that violate an authentically human sense of sexuality, and which are a palliative to the deeper suffering which involve the responsibility of individuals and of society.[11] This was interpreted in May 1990 by the Roman Catholic bishops of Madagascar as a "solemn reminder" giving ground for their view that in the context of positions such as that of cardinal Lustiger who stated that it was a "lesser evil", "the condom remains a 'moral evil'".[11]

In September 1990, John Paul II visited the small town of Mwanza, in northern Tanzania, and gave a speech that many believe set the tone for the AIDS crisis in Africa. Being unequivocal, he told his audience that condoms were a sin in any circumstances. He lauded family values and praised fidelity and abstinence as the only true ways to combat the disease.[12]

In December 1995, the Pontifical Council for the Family issued guidelines saying that parents must also reject the promotion of so-called "safe sex" or "safer sex", a dangerous and immoral policy based on the deluded theory that the condom can provide adequate protection against AIDS.[13]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_AIDS

 

I've never really had that much exposure to religion, so I ignored it. Having said this, since I've been living in a Theravada Buddhist country where religion is all around me, I have now taken notice.

I attend most of the Buddhist celebrations and festivals here in Laos. This is one way to absorb oneself in the culture. These celebrations and festivals are very vibrant, colourful and a heap of fun. Christianity could learn something from these celebrations.

 

Nope, like most people of my generation in Australia I am an atheist.

 

Time to get proportional between your causality there, as your sounding a bit irrational to me.

 

Irrational about one idiots belief in a fictitious being; then forcing those beliefs onto millions of people causing an unnecessary epidemic and the deaths of millions...

How do justify all the evil the Catholic/Christian sect has done since its inception verses the little good its done.

Is elevating a fictional character to the realm of omnipotence to elevate themselves over everyone else, really an act of goodness?

Is deliberately keeping people blindly in the dark and ignorant for your own glorification, really an act of goodness?

There is nothing wrong with people wanting to believe in Gods; Goddesses or fairies living in the bottom of the garden, but be honest about it.

The Catholic/Christian sect since its inception has became fat and rich living off peoples fear, but the people have remained relatively poor, both materially and spiritually; thanks to these parasite priests living off human misery.

Just ask yourself one question. How much more scientifically and medically advanced would humanity be today, if the Catholic sect didn’t exist, or didn’t have the power to stifle humanities scientific knowledge for hundreds of years.

Sorry to have to say this: but the Catholic/Christian sect, is a bastard sect in any language.

Makes you wonder when Jesus was speaking about Satan and his disciples - whether he was alluding to a future Catholic sect and all the little minions within it - an organisation that’s certainly done more evil than good for humanity.

 

I worship the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I see the Bible as infallible and true. And I take it as it is written....meaning when its poetry its poetry. When its history, its history and accurate. When its prophesy, its prophesy. The Old Testament is my opportunity to know God and what is righteous and what is wrong. What is truth and what is misguided. The New Testament is my covenant with God.

 

I respect everyone for their own faith and beliefs. Personally, my own intelligence and logic tells me not to trust or worship “any” being capable of such malevolent cruelty as the Catholic/Christian God. I wouldn’t wont to know that type of person/thing in real life, and I certainly wouldn’t waste my time wanting to get to know them in some fictional reality.

I’m a human being who hasn’t “supposedly” created the Universe and everything it, and I haven’t stepped foot off my own planet, but I treat my own animals with more respect and dignity than this so-called God has ever treated the sentient beings “it” supposedly created.

I might be a tiny little entity in the grand scheme of thing, but I still deserve some bloody respect, and not to be treated like I’m some piece of shyte under the heal of some omnipotent beings shoe.

 

And how do you determine when it's poetry and when it's fact? Let me guess, when science and history prove a passage wrong it's suddenly just poetry.

 

The same way we assume a Robert Frost poem is poetry. Its not hard. However----every verse in the Bible is factual.