Who cares about the poor the most?

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  1. montra

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    So who cares about the poor the most?
     
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    I don't think any modern religion is as good. As for the major two political parties, they only give a rat's ass about their own interests.
     
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    Why do I think he's trolling the people giving money?
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christians do.

    Before Christians in Western Europe started them, there were no charities.

    The people who care the least about the poor are Leaders in virtually all African countries, followed by Islamic leaders, Hindus, Buddists and then the assorted others.

    Real communists want everyone to be poor except their corrupt leadership.
     
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    Is he any worse than political leaders who demagogue about wanting to help the poor?

    Last I checked the war on poverty declared some half a century ago by Progressives are only increasing the poverty rates.
     
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    Yeah it's funny, they want to declare the war on poverty a smashing success in one breath, and claim that there's more poverty than ever and it's even worse than before in the next.

    And of course the only solution is to give government more power over everyone's lives. Double down on the stupid.
     
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    I seriously doubt that.

    OP:
    Are there religions equally represented in that area though? In oprder to give a fair representation the money given by each religion should be divided by how many of that religion there are in the area.
     
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    Unfair test, I can't see how many buds are in the weed smokers little jar.
     
  11. montra

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    What about it? Do you have any stats on that?
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    The ones that care about the poor are the poor themselves. No one really cares. As long as they make good money and have homes and cars. They blame the poor for being poor. Sad very sad
     
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    He is not being fair?

    There is only paying your fair share. :roflol:
     
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    Blatant lie.
     
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    Socialism can care about the poor but that would require those social morals for free.
     
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    So a thread about religion, gets derailed by the guy who started it.
     
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    The average socialist, regardless of the theory behind socialism, doesn't care at all about the poor.

    It's very rare that you see a socialist giving of his own, to the benefit of the poor. Typically they do everything they can to get someone else to give to the poor.

    Capitalists on the other hand, want everyone to succeed. The key difference is, we help the poor, not only with charity, but also by giving them motivation to improve themselves.

    It's the difference between enabling and helping. If you have an alcoholic brother in law, and he asks for $100... what do you do? The Socialist will simply give him the $100.... but not his own $100, but rather ask around for someone else, to give him the $100. That not only makes everyone he knows poorer, but also destroys the alcoholic brother in law.

    The Capitalist Conservative, will ask give him the $100, from his own pocket, but only if he goes to rehab, and gets help for his alcoholism, so that he can become stable and productive, and successful in life.

    Which is being greedy and envious? The socialist. He demands everyone else help the poor, but not himself, and his policies do not actually help the poor.

    Capitalist Conservatives actually help people, and they actually help people from their own money, and we help them to advance themselves, which gives them self respect, and dignity that can not be acquired by merely living off the work of others.
     
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    I believe the those of your point of view are disingenuous by advancing that line of reasoning. Socialism should be insisting that supply side economics supply us with better governance at lower cost, and not only that, with an official Mint at Its Disposal, with which to convince Capitalism to go along with it on a for-profit basis.
     
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    Care to back that up with a source?


    Wrong again. Muslims contribute more to charity (more than double that of Christians) well ahead of other religions and atheist.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/21/muslims-give-most_n_3630830.html
     
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    Ha! I'd give the guy money just for being clever.
     
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    themselves.
     
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    Got any evidence other wise, especially fo charities that extend beyond one's own family unit?
     
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    How about some evidence to back up your beliefs. I seriously doubt you can find anything.
     
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    Evidence?
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again the idea of "charity" as a policy, religious practice, or insitution was first practiced by Western Christians.

    http://www.ourcivilisation.com/cooray/btof/chap242.htm

    I can think of no worse religion or culture in terms of charity than Islam. Many of the people with the lowest standard of living are in Ismalic nations. Also world's most unfriendly and hostile people are commonly found in Islamic nations: Afghanistan tops the list. Their culture of hospitality and protection to those inside their homes is not charity. Islamic donations are often to terror groups. The Red Crescent wasn't founded until 1919, and most other Islamic charities are recent inventions---copied from Christians and Westerners, of course. Having a policy of "convert or die" isn't so charitable.

    You have any sources to contratdict my orginal statement? Anything?
     

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