Who do you consider white? Is white a valid race?

also:

The largest study to date on the Jews of North Africa has been led by Gerard Lucotte et al. in 2003.[32] This study showed that the Jews of North Africa[Note 7] showed frequencies of their paternal haplotypes almost equal to those of the Lebanese and Palestinian non-Jews.

Many genetic studies have demonstrated that most of the various Jewish ethnic divisions and the Palestinians and other Levantines, like the Druze[12][13][17][39] and Bedouin,[12][13] are genetically closer to each other than the Palestinians or European Jews are to non-Jewish Europeans or Africans.[12][13][92] One DNA study by Nebel and colleagues found genetic evidence in support of historical records that "part, or perhaps the majority" of Muslim Palestinians descend from "local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD".[92] They also found substantial genetic overlap between Muslim Palestinians and Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, though with some significant differences that might be explainable by the geographical isolation of the Jews and by immigration of Arab tribes in the first millennium.[92]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

 

Its not just the cohen genes, its dozens of other genetic studies based on y-dna, mtdna, and autosomal dna which I have posted showing most jews are of israelite ancestry. But the idea that non-jews are now cohens is rich. You have no evidence to back up your claim that bavlim are arabs. Please provide evidence we are descended from arab tribes. You have none. All you have posted is baseless statements and conjectures without any evidence. I have posted mountains of evidence, genetic, genealogical, and historical evidence to back up my claims.

 

And this just further confirms what I have been saying all along, that palestinians differ from their arab admixture and that ashkenazi and sefaradi jews are middle eastern. There is no evidence here of georgian, iraqi, or bukharim jews being descended from any arab tribes.

 

J1 or JM267 is known as the Cohain gene.

Its is found amoung 46% of Cohain Jews.

Its is also found amoung 40% of Jordanian Arabs, 40% of Palestinian Arabs, 34% of Syrians, 32% of Tunisians, 40% of Saudis, 35% of folks in the UAE, and 38% of folks in Oman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)

 

The Cohen hypothesis was first tested by Prof. Karl Skorecki and collaborators from Haifa, Israel, in 1997. In their study, "Y chromosomes of Jewish priests," published in the journal Nature,[2] they found that the Kohanim appeared to share a different probability distribution compared to the rest of the Jewish population for the two Y-chromosome markers they tested (YAP and DYS19). They also found that the probabilities appeared to be shared by both Sephardic and Ashkenazi Cohens, pointing to a common Cohen population origin before the Jewish diaspora under the Roman empire. However, this study also indicated that only 48% of Ashkenazi Cohanim and 58% of Sephardic Cohanim have the J1 Cohen Modal Haplotype.

In a subsequent study the next year (Thomas MG et al., 1998,[3] the team increased the number of Y-STR markers tested to six, as well as testing more SNP markers. Again, they found that a clear difference was observable between the Kohanim population and the general Jewish population, with many of the Cohen STR results clustered around a single pattern they named the Cohen Modal Haplotype:

xDE[2] xDE,PR[3] Hg J[4] CMH.1[3] CMH[3] CMH.1/HgJ CMH/HgJ
Ashkenazi Cohanim (AC): 98.5% 96% 87% 69% 45% 79% 52%
Sephardic Cohanim (SC): 100% 88% 75% 61% 56% 81% 75%
Ashkenazi Jews (AI): 82% 62% 37% 15% 13% 40% 35%
Sephardic Jews (SI): 85% 63% 37% 14% 10% 38% 27%

Here, becoming increasingly specific, xDE is the proportion who were not in Haplogroups D or E (from the original paper); xDE,PR is the proportion who were not in haplogroups D, E, P, Q or R; Hg J is the proportion who were in Haplogroup J (from the slightly larger panel studied by Behar et al. (2003)[4]); CMH.1 means "within one marker of the CMH-6"; and CMH is the proportion with a 6/6 match. The final two columns show the conditional proportions for CMH.1 and CMH, given membership of Haplogroup J.

The data shows that the Kohanim were more than twice as likely to belong to Haplogroup J than the average non-Cohen Jew. Of those who did belong to Haplogroup J, the Kohanim were more than twice as likely to have an STR pattern close to the CMH-6, suggesting a much more recent common ancestry for most of them compared to an average non-Cohen Jew of Haplogroup J.

Thomas, et al. dated the origin of the shared DNA to approximately 3,000 years ago (with variance arising from different generation lengths). The techniques used to find Y-chromosomal Aaron were first popularized in relation to the search for the patrilineal ancestor of all contemporary living humans, Y-chromosomal Adam.

One source of early confusion was a widespread popular notion that only Cohens or only Jews could have the Cohen Modal Haplotype. It is now clear that this is not the case. The Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH), whilst notably frequent amongst Cohens, is also far from unusual in the general populations of haplogroups J1 and J2 with no particular link to the Cohen ancestry. These haplogroups occur widely throughout the Middle East and beyond.[9][10] Thus, while many Cohens have haplotypes close to the CMH, a greater number of such haplotypes worldwide belong to people with no likely Cohen connection at all.

Individuals with at least 5/6 matches for the original 6 marker Cohen Modal Haplotype occur widely across the Middle East, with significant frequencies in various Arab populations mainly with J1 Haplogroup, "that are not traditionally considered admixed with mainstream Jewish populations" – notably Yemen (34.2%), Oman (22.8%), Negev (21.9%), and Iraq (19.2%); and amongst Muslim Kurds (22.1%), Bedouins (21.9%), and Armenians (12.7%).[11]

On the other hand, Jewish populations were found to have a "markedly higher" proportion of full 6/6 matches, according to the same (2005) meta-analysis,[11] compared to these non-Jewish populations, where "individuals matching at only 5/6 markers are most commonly observed".[11]

The authors nevertheless warned that "using the current CMH definition to a infer relation of individuals or groups to the Cohen or ancient Hebrew populations would produce many false-positive results," and note that "it is possible that the originally defined CMH represents a slight permutation of a more general Middle Eastern type that was established early on in the population prior to the divergence of haplogroup J. Under such conditions, parallel convergence in divergent clades to the same STR haplotype would be possible."

Y-DNA patterns from around the Gulf of Oman were analysed in more detail by Cadenas et al. in 2007.[12] The detailed data confirm that the main cluster of haplogroup J1 haplotypes from the Yemen appears to be some genetic distance different from the CMH-12 pattern typical of Eastern European Ashkenazi Cohens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Aaron#Newer_studies

 

Mizrahi Jews should embrace their genetic connection to their Arab brethren.

 

No evidence has been shown to back up your claims that babylonian jews from Iraq, Georgia, Uzbekistan, and other caucasian countries are descended from arab converts to judaism.

 

Ashkenazi Jews and Sefaradi Jews also have genetic connection to the middle east but are not descended from arab tribes. Mizrahi jews are not arabs, sorry.

 

In the past you have made other outrageous claims that I am 'ashamed' of my brown skin or that mizrahi jews never have blue eyes and white skin, saying that now I descend from some mysterious arab converts in babylon that never existed. All of these accusations have been proven false.

 

Jewish men (ashkenazi rite) These men are not 'white people' by conventional definitions. They look dagestani.





Jews are more related to arabs than to european peoples, Jews and Arabs are both semites, but Jews share more in common with levantine and northern mesopotamian populations like the assyrians and kurds, and also the caucasians who lie north of the fertile cresent. Also with cypriots, greeks, sicilians, and other italians.

Caucasian mountain jews speak judeo-tat (a jewish persian dialect), they descend from ancient persian jewish exiles, who in turn are most related to my group, the babylonian jews. Some ashkenazi jews, and many sefaradi jews from europe actually have bavli origins if you go back 1,000 years. Babylonian jews settled all over the mediterranean and some went to sefarad and ashkenaz (via italy).

 

Here is a typical Moroccan Sefaradi Jew. And yes, he looks 'jewish' ( a unique middle eastern look, not arab, but hebraic, something that many jews take pride in), I could tell he was jewish even without the orthodox hat and suit. Closest genetic relatives according to autosomal dna tests: Ashkenazi Jews.

Its the facial features. Rabbi Yoshiyahu Yosef Pinto. Has reddish, black beard, blue eyes, white olive skin tone. He descends from a famous rabbinical dynasty that traces its genealogy back to Israel.





Rabbi David Pinto

 

i seriously doubt that.

there are no Jews that can actually trace their entire family history back to ancient Judeans.

 

They are not Israelites. These are Romans and Greeks.

 

Of course, just like Mayans look like your average North American.

Not.

 

No evidence shows jewish ppl descend from Israelites either.

 

Edomites have red hair [and blue eyes]

 

all Edomites had red hair and blue eyes?

bull(*)(*)(*)(*). you have no evidence for this very silly claim.

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These pictures were drawn by Jews.

why would they draw fellow Jews as Romans and Greeks?



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there is more evidence that Jews descent from Israelites, than any other people.

certainly more evidence than the stupid theory that black Americans descent from Israelites.

 

Edom means red. What colour do so- called white ppl go when they are in the sun? Esau was hairy, who are the hairiest ppl?

Prove those pics were drawn by 'Jews'. Because they certainly look Greek and Roman. Why would Jews pretend Moses was greek?

There is no evidence that jewish ppl descend from Israelites that disproves they descended from Esau.

 

100% racist nonsense. But good comedy material.

 

So you have no answers to the material stated in Genesis?

 

The Bible never said that every single Edomite was red skinned with blue eyes.

someone lied to you.

he simply had red skin when he was born. that doesn't mean he had red skin his entire life.

jeeeeeez...

 

Analogy.

noun
a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.

The bible uses that a lot.

 

he was born with red skin.

babies sometimes look funny when they are born.

that doesn't mean he had red skin his entire life.

nor does that mean all of his descendants had red skin.

some racist lied to you.

 

Its an analogy. Esau was hairy where as all of the Israelites mentioned in Genesis were not. These are clues since its forbidden to paint images, idol worship.

 

Esau was hairy. Big deal. That doesn't mean all of his descendants over thousands of years were hairy.

Esau had red skin when he was born. That doesn't mean he had red skin as an adult. Nor does it mean his descendants were born with red skin or had red skin as an adult.

The racist agenda of whoever told you these things, is very clear.