Who Do You Support?

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Who Do You Support?

  1. Ukraine

    8 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. Palestine

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  3. Russia

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. Israel

    11 vote(s)
    84.6%
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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the war between Ukraine and Russia who do you support? In the war between Israel and Palestine who do you support? Select only the countries you are supporting.
     
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  2. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None.
     
  3. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for playing. Can I ask why you aren't supporting any country? Is it a money issue? I noticed you are from the UK. Is your position at odds with most of your country? How do most feel about both wars?
     
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  4. JohnHamilton

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    I marked Israel and the Ukraine although my support for Ukraine is running thin.

    Biden’s Ukraine policy has been half assed at best. I hope that Israel will not allow Biden to dictate their war strategy. I am pretty sure they won’t.
     
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    I, too, marked support for Israel, but not for Ukraine -- because I've kept up with the history of the way the Kiev-based oligarchs treated fellow-Ukrainians in the eastern half of the country, going back at least at far as 2014.

    And, no, I do NOT support Russia, at all. Not after the crap Putin pulled in 2022! But that doesn't mean that I want us to go on pouring unlimited and unaccounted for BILLONS into Zelensky's empire, either. Take a good look at the faction that put a guy like Zelensky in power in the first place and you'll become skeptical, too. Start with THIS guy:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
     
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    Ukraine and innocent civilians everywhere.
     
  7. JohnHamilton

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    Maybe I screwed up on the iPad. I fully support Israel fully because they will fight their war to survive. I am having serious second thoughts about the Ukraine. I don’t think some of our money is getting where it belongs.
     
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  8. Nonnie

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    Just not interested or bothered in who wins, loses, or draws tbh. Israel and Palestine have never caught my interest, even the Middle East in general.

    From Belarus across to Kyrgyzstan, and down including the old Yugoslavia area, that region has never tickled my fancy either. Neither has Russia.
     
  9. flyboy56

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    Yet you have been posting on a Geo Political forum since 2017. Many of them concern Ukraine and Russia and other global issues. Why would that be if you are as disinterested with these issues as you claim?
     
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    I can post about them, I'm not interested who wins the wars.
     
  11. flyboy56

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    Seems those who vote for Ukraine also vote for Israel. Why are you not voting for Israel? Just because you don't "support" Israel I am not going to assume you are pro-Palestine. That false narrative has been beaten to death over the Ukraine Russian war. I do not support the war in Ukraine but I am not pro-Russian. I have questions about the Ukrainian government because of what our government was saying before the US got involved with Ukraine. Why is our government toning down their negative position?
     
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    You don't believe the outcomes of either will have a positive or negative effect on you and your country?
     
  13. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That question is a valid question if you feel that it's something that I've thought about, or considered, or was interested in. So to me, it's a meaningless question.
     
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    @flyboy56 the only thing I would support is Western countries growing a pair of balls and collectively go around the planet and kill terrorists, drug cartels, and leaders such as Putin and Kim Jong Un.
     
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    I support Israel... our closest ally. We are marked for annihilation along with them. Europe must do much more in helping Ukraine. I'm done with that rathole!
     
  16. flyboy56

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    I believe more Americans are starting to feel this way, even those who have been staunch supporters of Ukraine. I have never supported the U.S. supporting Ukraine. It was the US government who had deep concerns about Ukraine before Russia invaded then very quickly changed its stance in Ukraine. I wasn’t fooled.
     
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    Oh, hell, let's be honest. Right after the fall of the Soviet Union, we in 'the West' began wooing a lot of people in what had been part of the "Communist East", including the emerging oligarch 'class' in Kiev. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) flooded an increasingly powerful and corrupt Kiev-based power structure with billions in 'loans' and other enticements to come join us in prosperity. NOT a bad idea at all, but as they became more powerful, and more dictatorial in their behavior toward Eastern Ukrainians, friction developed, and by 2014, everything boiled over. You know the rest....

    What does Russia want? It damned sure wants to keep the Black Sea as its own private little 'pond', where it can have easy access to a year-round warm-water port (through the Bosporus and Dardanelles Straits), and where it can base its Black Sea Navy fleet (in Crimea).

    Considering the sheer logistics of this situation, it's really hard to see how Russia is going to lose this conflict, and, given that the U. S. approach to everything is just to recklessly throw billions of dollars at everything and hope for the best, it seems inevitable that given enough time, Russia will prevail.
     

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