Who here denies that CIA/Mossad helped topple democracies and instal dictatorships?

Who here denies that CIA helped topple a democraticaly elected president in Iran and replace him with a US friendly dictator Shah? anyone here denies that?
Who here has watched failed CIA coup in Venezuela?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id--ZFtjR5c"]The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - Chavez: Inside the Coup - YouTube[/ame]

 

K, your point?

 

My point is taken from this gibberish:

 

Wackenhut International Corporation has been around since 1954.. they seem vaguely tied to the CIA and seem to show up anywhere there is trouble.

 

the third poster that posted here does.she is afraid of the truth about government conspiracys.she ignores FACTS of things like even when EX CIA opertives have come forward and said they got out of the CIA while they still could because of the horrors they saw them commit.

None of that means anything to her though. If she ever did a google search of VIETNAM,THE CIA AND OPERATION PHOENIX she would see how her posts are a bunch of ramblings.she always runs off when confronted with facts and evidence that prove her wrong.all she can do is troll.

 

anyways back to the topic here,some of the american sheep,they think obama is for us,yet the FACTS that he is corrupt in the fact that he was seen on tv having lunch with chavez and patting him on the back having a jolly old good time laughing with him.they will live so much in denial over things like this saying-pictures can be faked.then you point out he was only seen on national television they then say-they can use fake film.Yeah like the media is REALLY going to want that to be known that Obama is palling around with dictater chavez.

the CIA whihc put the mossad in power,they seem to have more power over our government and the media now than the CIA did.you can go to a bookstore and find books on corruption of the CIA but you cant go anywhere and find those kinds of books about the mossad though.its unreal.

 

Thats what they always do, that is exactly why I start new threads on every good point, because they always ignore them and continnue their bull crap they heard on the media, and I can't even find my question any more.

 

just watch,if she even bothers to come back,she wont even bother to address those facts I brought up,she'll just call you a wacky conspiracy theorist and crap like that.somehow what former credible CIA operatives have said about the organization means zip to her so it makes her feel better to insult rather than face facts.people like her just want to worship what the media and government say to them,anything by an expert that refutes them,they ignore.some people just dont want to admit that they have been played for by the government and media for the blind sheep that they are and dont want to deal with it so they do the easy and convient thing and insult.

they say were conspiracy theorists but were actually conspiracy REALISTS.we go by facts and evidence and documents.its not our fault that they wont look at the evidence you provide them like you did.

 

As Hitler brilliantly stated "a lie repeated often enough, becomes truth" or something like that. now watch, she will have material now to label me a nazi, anti semite because Hitler was mentioned. well maybe not in this thread because i mentioned it, but in other threads that's all it takes.

 

yeah pretty much.thats interesting that you mention hitler because thats how he was able to get power was despite all the signs that were there.people ignored the warnings and covered their ears and eyes to the evidence and they paid the price and found out what was being said was in fact true when it was too late for them to admit so.

i dont think the NWO will work here like it did in germany because there is actually an awakening going on,even the blacks in chicago have woke up and realised they made a mistake voting for obama and see that he is no defferent than Bushwacker and have turned to ron paul.people are waking up its just we dont see it in our lives we have everyday but its happening.

 

i love it,the deniars cant counter the evidence here so they either throw childish insults like that lady here always does or they dont come back.priceless,they want to see this thread die cause they cant counter it.

 

You guys are right about the CIA, I think. The statement that democracies do not wage war on democracies may still hold true, it just requires the considerable amendment that democracies are willing to abort unborn democracies that might get in the way of business.

But you should chill a little ... if everybody knew everything about the CIA, they wouldn't still be the CIA, would they? Picking on people for not knowing about the CIA is like picking on people because Mike Tyson can punch them.

 

Iran

Qajar dynasty (1796–1925)

Pahlavi era (1925–1979)
Reza Shah ruled for almost 16 years until September 16, 1941, when he was forced to abdicate by the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran. He established an authoritarian government that valued nationalism, militarism, secularism and anti-communism combined with strict censorship and state propaganda.[85] Reza Shah introduced many socio-economic reforms, reorganizing the army, government administration, and finances. To his supporters his reign brought "law and order, discipline, central authority, and modern amenities – schools, trains, buses, radios, cinemas, and telephones". However, his attempts of modernisation have been criticised for being "too fast" and "superficial", and his reign a time of "oppression, corruption, taxation, lack of authenticity" with "security typical of police states." In particular he clashed with Iran's clergy and devout Muslims. His laws and regulations required mosques to use chairs, all Iranian except qualifying Shia jurisconsults to wear western clothes including a hat with a brim, encouraged women to discard hijab, allowed mixing of the sexes. In 1935 bazaaris and villagers rose up in rebellion at the Imam Reza shrine in Mashhad, chanting slogans such as 'The Shah is a new Yezid.' Dozens were killed and hundreds were injured when troops finally quelled the unrest.

Reza Shah's son Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, came to power during World War II, when British and Indian forces from Iraq and Soviet forces from the north occupied Iran in August 1941. Iran was a vital oil-supply source and link in the Allied supply line for lend-lease supplies. Reza Shah was forced to abdicate in favour of his pro-British son Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, who ruled until 1979.

Iran did have a very corrupt elected government before 1979 and that government was thrown out with help from America and GB after the PM nationalized the British developed oil industry.

What was the name of the Iranian president that you think was overthrown?

 

Exactly, they prefer to watch the special interest controlled mass media (FOX, CNN, MSNBC) talk about gay rights or about what is the right way to put on a roll of toilet paper over or under. but when it comes to reality, they get confused.

 

they still havent come back to try and refute it. Looks like it is up to us to keep it alive,we cant let it die the way they want it to. its such a great thread.

 

We usually never agree on anything, but I have to agree on this one

 

I deny that the CIA/Mossad are involved in anything. The Arab Spring was entirely spontaneous. Libya was a case of the entire Libyan population revolting against the horrible dictator, Gaddafi. That's why a few hundred thousand filled the streets of Tripoli to support the awful man when the shock and awe was about to kick off.

 

I will have to get back to you on that

 

You don't have to worry about that. My post was sarcastic. The Arab Spring was largely fueled by external forces (covert operations). Libyans mostly did not want to rid their nation of Gaddafi's leadership, and surely did not want western intervention. Just look who took over Libya.

 

Sometimes it's hard to detect sarcasm, try to be more clear next time

 

Lol...If this comes as news to you, you must have been asleep for at least the past 60 years.

 

So you are a reality denier?

 

you obviously have not researched 9/11 or the kennedy assassination.their fingerprints are all over the place in those two.

 

when? I cant remember ever getting into any debates with you before till I found this thread.

 

yeah in that post of yours I could not detect any sarcasm either so he is right,you will have to try much harder in the future.You might use smileys and things like that.