Who is the Beast in The Book of Revelations?

Goblekli Tempe was never flooded.

 

I misspelled Gobekli Tepe. Anyway, its 12,000 years old and was never flooded.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-text

 

Have you even ever talked to anyone from NASA? You can go to nasa.gov and talk to those in charge of HST. Have you done this?

 

The deepest man has been is approx. 8 miles deep. How do you know there is no water down there? Do you have Superman vision, or did you fly down there as well? It's called the great deep. The flood was not just rain water, the fountains of the deep burst open as well. You got nothing!

 

Have you?

They would flat out prove you wrong and if you say otherwise you would be lying.

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I got everything.

When they dived that deep they were diving THROUGH water and hit the bottom and yes we know there is not enough water to fit your idiotic biblical lie

 

Ok, tell me how you know there is not enough water for a Biblical flood? Aside from the fountains of the deep bursting open, how is it you can tell how much rain would fall in 40 days and 40 nights? For at one time it could be raining heavily, and another time so vast it's beyond describable, or would make the heavy rain seem light. Tell me how you know how much water can come from the sky, what is the maximum number, because apparently your saying there is one? So what is it?

 

And you know this because?

The entire earth was flooded, most of the water was evaporated and soaked up by earth (God calls the dry land earth, and the gathering together of waters called he seas). However there is still more water than land. Your not convincing anybody who opposes such an accusation of yours and others, for there is tremendous evidence of a flood. Oh, and such a flood would renew the face of the entire earth (dry land), of course waterways, lakes, rivers, and everything else would be completely different, due to a new face of earth (dry land).

I don't need any scientist or anybody, to observe with my own eyes as to evidence of God's cleansing of earth and evil. The next time will be with fire and brimstone. Nuclear, along with wormwood, other stars falling, and the fourth angel pouring out his bowl on the sun, giving the sun power to scorch men with fire.

Their tongues shall melt in their mouths, and their eyes in their places, their flesh shall be consumed.

 

Because floods leave a footprint.. a sediment layer.. There is none a Gobekli tepe, the Pyramids, the Arabian peninsula... Jericho and elsewhere.

The stories are important and have a deeper meaning..

 

Hello Mcfly anybody home?

The fountains of the deep burst open, the entire depth of the earth is the sediment layer. C'MON MAN!

 

before water comes from the sky where do you think it comes from?

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There is no evidence of a world wide flood period.

 

There are no "fountains of the deep".. Its poetic language for a spring.

Sediment layers are taken in core samples and are measurable.. Every geologist, miner, oilman know exactly what flood sediment is. May I ask how much education you have?

 

No person is more educated than another (age within reason). For life gives us all different courses and meanings, and we all can learn something from everyone.

For no man/person has the ability to create what our Father in heaven has created. And to this day we try to figure it all out, because we have not, and if we did, that would necessarily mean that we ourselves would be able to create all this, just as God did. That will never happen!

It's almost like man gets so pissed because they cannot figure out how God did it. And because of that, they make up their own ideas, using mathematics as to proof and disregarding science, observations, and experiments.

 

Except it's not. Sedimentary layers have specific characteristics that the entire world does not match.

 

The entire earth is the flood sediment, with other floods after it. Creating what would seem to be................ what your claiming.

 

I guess indeed I walked straight into that one!

Other than the fact there is all this water. HMMMMM? Searching for your evidence, for some reason you tend to ignore all this.............. water.

 

There is no evidence to support what you just claimed.

 

We cannot go beyond 8 miles deep. As if there is a barrier corresponding with God's word. This is actually God speaking. "Hitherto shall thou come but no further, and here is where thy proud waves be stayed". Again God speaking. "The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen".

Perhaps this will do better to help you understand those who think they know the creation.

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Job 38:
1Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

3Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

9When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

10And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

11And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

12Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

13That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

14It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

15And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.

16Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

17Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

18Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.

19Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,

20That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?

21Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?

22Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

23Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

24By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?

25Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;

26To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;

27To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?

28Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?

29Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

30The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

31Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

32Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

33Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

34Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?

35Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?

36Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?

37Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,

38When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?

39Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,

40When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?

41Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

 

What a second

Now you are claiming there are EIGHT MILES of sedimentary layers ON TOP of the supposed global sedimentary layer from the flood?

There is no magic barrier eight miles deep. It's too hot for current technology to go deeper. When we build more resilient machines, we will go deeper than that depth.

 

Intriguing!

On the other hand I read some evidence from parapsychology that in another time line, example of Multiverse, over ten percent of the USA had been swallowed by the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans by January 1, 2013.


http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

...... post #7......

Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... … and is not confined to being a straight line...…

In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

 

As of now, yes that is my understanding. No matter where the try to dig or drill as to the deepest hole, it is at that point they can go no further. So yes as of now that is my claim. If further evidence is provided, such as going beyond that depth I will most certainly reconsider other possibilities. However those possibilities would still be considered through a Biblical perspective.

 

In his fascinating book "The Vision" Pastor Rick Joyner was given a message that two world ruling empires were about to rise up.

The first one would be out of the oceans.... and the second one out of the land.

Canada and America have the option to be the leaders in Beast number 1 at least if.........
the political left and right in Canada and the USA can come together on
at least some aspects of climate change......



http://www.politicalforum.com/envir...long-term-effects-climate-change-logical.html

Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?

 

Where exactly could 8 MILES of sendimentary layers come from in the last couple thousand years? That's an insane claim to make.

 

The "beast" was Roman emperors. Rick Joyner is a charlatan.

 

You are correct that the Beast......
was indeed the Roman Empire in the time of the original writing, The Apocalypse or Revelations but......
there is also a modern revival of Rome in our time period just before the return of Messiah ben Yosef and Moshiach ben David.......
The prediction that President Donald TRump has some sort of "Cyrus" destiny, calling, mantle has serious implications.

 

That's Scofield heresy dating to about 1830.