Who should determine when mass voter fraud has occurred in a federal election?

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Who should determine when mass voter fraud has occurred in a federal election

  1. The poll officials

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  2. The ballot canvassers

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  3. The federal courts

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  4. The Department of Homeland Security

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  5. The Department of Justice

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  6. All of the above

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  7. The losing candidate's lawyers

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    Who determined that the recount was delayed in Fulton County for the purpose of committing voter fraud?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Mr. Phishbook is invested to the tune of $400M in voter fraud. The multi-billionaire Hitler Youth graduate has been buying the lack of law enforcement all over the country. An avalanche of money can buy fraud. Just need some RICO investigations to clear this all up.
     
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    A verifiable election would solve the problem, like Canada’s.
     
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    Clearly it shouldn't be people like diGenova

    "President Donald Trump’s campaign lawyer Joseph diGenova suggested Monday that Chris Krebs, the former chief of U.S. cybersecurity, should be executed for defending the integrity of the Nov. 3 election.

    “Anybody who thinks the election went well, like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity, that guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot,” diGenova said in a call-in interview to “The Howie Carr Show,” which was broadcast on the radio, Newsmax and online streams.
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    There's a Christian pastor somewhere calling for firing squads. The Word of God.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Alrighty then. Translation anybody?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'll type more slowly. The Zuckerbergs invested $400M in an operation implicated in voter fraud to elect Biden. No one has anything to worry about because Soros' operation chaos involves donating gigabucks for low level prosecutor slots all over the country to candidates who are sworn to allow crime to fester unabated.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Well, at least I know you're talking about zuckerberg. The rest reads like a Stephen King novel. Got anything to give those claims some meat?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    This shows his focus on law and order, raising the campaign finance bar well above common. Let there be no shock when local law enforcement stands down when faced with violent attacks by their favorite terrorists.
    https://ballotpedia.org/George_Soros/Political_activity
     
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    Okay. Have a good day.
     
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    No

    The hand recount only affirmed that there were physical ballots.

    But it did not confirm that all legal votes were counted and illegal ballots were discarded.

    If you want specifics, look at Chatham County where illegal votes were added during the evening hours after the polls had closed. Two people have been charged in that situation.
     
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    Link?
     
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    A witness in a lawsuit from allies of President Donald Trump trying to overturn democracy in Michigan said that the vote count in Edison County "are cause for concern and indicate fraud" because President-elect Joe Biden won "more than 100% of the votes."

    There's just one problem: There is no Edison County in Michigan, the Detroit Free Press pointed out.

    The claim comes from Navid Keshavarz-Nia, who describes himself in the affidavit as a cybersecurity expert working at a defense contractor and has received training from several government agencies. The affidavit is included as an exhibit appended to a lawsuit filed last week by people working with Sidney Powell, a former member of the Trump campaign's legal team.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sid...t-witness-vote-problems-edison-county-2020-12
     
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    The judiciary. You certainly don't want politicians involved.
     
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    So who determined that money contributions from Zuckerberg was implicated in voter fraud?
     
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    but the ballot canvassing or hand recount process would confirm whether or not the machines used to count the ballots were in fact changing the votes. If the machine count in a particular county shows that candidate A received 15,000 votes, while the ballot paper tapes show that candidate A actually got more than 30,000 votes, then we would know that there is an inconsistency in how the machines counted the ballots, and how they were actually filled out.

    As for whether or not the individual registrations to each ballot cast were legally valid, you are correct to say that a hand recount process would not verify that. However I do not believe what you posted in relation to two individuals being charged for adding ballots is accurate. Do you have a source to that claim?
     
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    The people of the non government-dependent private sector, ~30 million small businesses and their employees, including the 70-80 million REAL, not fabricated, voters, Trump's actual base... who coincidentally pay a vast portion of the federal tax base... will likely be the final arbiters, not any branch of the corrupt gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex. Not one bit surprised that wasn't an option on the poll because the eventuality is terrifying to the Complex and it SHOULD be.

    Those who think that the IRS (or anyone else) will be able to prosecute and jail -ONE- million tax revolters, let alone 10+ million (hell or 30 million), have another thing coming. The Complex is treading on very thin ice with stacking the human rights violations of COVID1984 with the ensuing massive ballot fraud of the 2020 election that those human rights violations enabled. We may be on the verge of living in interesting times in the U.S. re killing the golden egg goose, killing the federal tax base or just plain killing.
     
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    What exactly are you suggesting, that the official determination on whether or not mass voter fraud was committed should come to a vote from the public?
     
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    It -will- come from the taxpayers of the non government-dependent private sector. You know, Trump's base who... pay for the whole thing? The Complex should not have gotten greedy with compounding the human rights violations of COVID1984 together with mass ballot fraud, and now a hard rain is gonna fall. The Complex is slavering for "muh RW gun violence" but the main violence is going to be against the pocketbook. Watch.
     
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    So it's an armed rebellion that will determine whether or not mass voter fraud occurred?
     
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    I watched a 7 hour hearing in a video of the Michigan Senate Oversight Committee. They marched in dozens of eye witnesses to fraud and thuggery, most of whom had submitted signed affidavits. That was just from the TCF Center (formerly Cobo Hall). There were hearings and witness testimony all week in cities where fraud was said to have occurred. If they were anything like the one I watched today, there will be a mountain of evidence that Biden lost in a landslide and a Biden Administration would wreak of illegitimacy.
     
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    How is it not one of these people has any video footage of any of this fraud? Where were all these people a month ago?
    And was this the hearing with Melissa Carone? Hopefully these other witnesses were a tad more credible than her.
     
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    They registered complaints as the fraud was being perpetrated and were told to shut up. If they insisted on rejecting ballots, the police was called. Some were assaulted. Some were doxed. Trump's lawyers have been collecting evidence from the first time they heard of a problem. They have hundreds of affidavits. I take it they have been working to amass enough evidence to present to the legislatures.

    They weren't allowed to take pictures. The training in the Democrat stronghold of a Republican state included how to prevent Republicans from seeing the ballots they were supposed to be reviewing. Pictures from outside showed Democrat thugs covering windows so Republicans who weren't allowed back in after break couldn't see the fraudsters at work.

    Even though fraud is normal for Democrats, as Biden said, he had the most complete fraud operation in history. He only had to flip a few GOP states by dumping fraudulent votes in large Democrat population centers. They had $400M from Zuckerberg to pay thugs to prevent the fraud from being caught on site.

    Carone was one of dozens of witnesses. While each had a slightly different experience, the sum of all the accounts painted a damning picture that confirmed Bidens proud statement.
     
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    Witness testimony is allowed in court where opposing counsel can cross examine witnesses. Carone stuck a finger in the legislators eye because they are ultimately responsible. Her claims as a dominion contractor are valid but estimates of ballots would probably not be acceptable in court. What it does show with corresponding witnesses that witnessed the same thing makes the claim stronger.
     
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