Why American people is so ignorant about Anarchism?

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  1. Idiocracy

    Idiocracy New Member

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    In Canada there is also a large lack of understanding from anarchism. So I'll speak about my feeling of why this is. The only time in education where anarchism is actually discussed in more than trivial detail is in university. Anarchism is also presented to a young generation as more of a culture then it is an ideology. So it is viewed as punk by kids and immature by adults who both have a misunderstanding. Anarchism has been turned into a fad, with designer jackets in North America, it is not treated as an ideology by the mainstream so to most people it is not.
     
  2. Unifier

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    Anarcho-capitalism is just darwinism. To believe in natural selection and reject anarcho-capitalism is to contradict yourself. You can argue that modified versions of anarcho-communism might have existed within a tribal environment but it was still nothing close to the left wing utopian vision of today. There was always a heirarchy of power. Every tribe had a leader. Just as every wolfpack has an alpha wolf.
     
  3. A Common Anomaly

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    It sounds like you are arguing against the theory of evolution.

    Plus, may I ask who is your alpha wolf and why do you need him?
     
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    Maybe, nobody cares about your childish version of politics.
     
  5. kilgram

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    No, in any sense. Anarchists usually have worked in unions.

    Anarchism is not against organization. And anarchists always have defended as the best way to be organized is in unions, anarchosyndicalism.

    And anarchists always have defended the organization of workers, firstly in the First International and from the lates of the XIX century in worker unions, revolutionary worker unions that work completely different from the ones that you know in USA.
     
  6. kilgram

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    I explained in my OP the origin of the new meaning of that words. The liberals passed to call themselves libertarian, meanwhile the original meaning of the libertarian word in USA vanished, that was synonim of anarchist.

    The liberal word changed to represent some ideology between socialdemocracy and socioliberalism.

    And according to today libertarians they are not anarchocapitalists, because they don't want to abolish the government, they are as much, minarchists.
     
  7. kilgram

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    Can you give arguments to your ad-hominem? why do you consider that I am childish in politics?

    What is wrong in my definition? It is longly documented what I've said. There is no mistake.
     
  8. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An organization is a form of government with rules & standards set up for the people that are a part of that organization. A union is an organization and, without any kind of real-life ruling entity, it is no longer an organization because those standards and rules cannot be enforced.

    Now, if you remove that ruling entity and supplant it with 'The People' who elect representatives then you have what we have here in the U.S. which seems to be the closest to your definition of 'anarchy.'
     
  9. akphidelt2007

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    It's all purely philosophical bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I deal with reality. There is no such thing as "natural rights". It's either an enforceable law or it's legal.
     
  10. GeneralZod

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    Great topic.

    Just one minor let down. Why the need for such an attack against the americans in the 'ignorance' word used in the title thread.

    I must admit i have battled a few americans on this forum in debates. but attacking them before it has even begun is unfair.
     
  11. liberalminority

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    libertarians still have structure, they let the capitalist business owners run the land so they are not anarchists

    anarchy is simple lawlessness it cannot be associated with liberals which has ideals that needs to be instituted through government authority.
     
  12. DonGlock26

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    Left-wing anarchists were blowing innocent people up at the turn of the 20th century. Their violence is nothing new.


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  13. A Common Anomaly

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    The reality is that you interjected yourself into this thread with an air of superiority and have not defended it.
     

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