Why are age 80+ deaths counted?

That's why test, test, test is easiee said than done. No way we can test enough for Dems not to complain.

 

Y'all just stay the **** off my property.[/QUOTE]

I support giving support to anyone that needs it. I am talking about counting people that die as a result of Covid or complications combined with Covid. but not someone that incidentally had Covid. A pesron that has Covid and dies of a car accident or cancer or is shot doesn't count as a person that died in conjunction with Covid.

 

I support giving support to anyone that needs it. I am talking about counting people that die as a result of Covid or complications combined with Covid. but not someone that incidentally had Covid. A pesron that has Covid and dies of a car accident or cancer or is shot doesn't count as a person that died in conjunction with Covid.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you on that. Just trying to avoid the whole 'kill the old' label certain groups seem ready to foist on anyone that questions the media on how deaths are counted...

 

Did someone say, "death panels"?

 

kjk

 

If the number of deaths of 80+ year olds in the last month is double the number of deaths of 80+ year olds in the same month of last year or years before, would you accept that this excess is probably due to the virus?

 

The data would provide insights regardless of ratio, and that would be of value. Provided it accurate data to begin with. That does not seem to be the case at the moment. Ignoring whether or not people are asymptomatic seems stupid and politically motivated, which degrades its value...

 

We do have accurate data on the total number of dead. Why are you even questioning that? Total number of dead does not depend on what they died of

 

You speak nonsense, we have lots of faulty foreign data and apparently lots of politically motivated data here. None of it has value unless it.is accurate...

 

What has the total number of deaths in New York have to do with "faulty foreign data"?

 

Isn't it ironic that you talk about politically motivated data, when the thread is on the subject of how to artificially reduce the covid-19 death count to make Trump politically look better?

 

Some locations are liberal in their classification of a death as virus-related.

If they died in a car accident, but coughed earlier in the day = Covid death.

 

If they actually had the virus I would totally support that.

 

And if not tested?

 

Then it's a guess. Not a fan of guessing and assumption. There could be another reason for the increased deaths. It's a slippery slope that could be motivated by political, personal or monetary gains.

 

I’d be suspicious if deaths from ordinary flu is much lower this season, because they’re being counted as COVID-19. Then something is up.

Same with cancer and other fairly consistent track able deaths. Obviously deaths from car accidents will see a downturn. But it will be curious if other causes of deaths unrelated to the act of being quarantined are lowered.

 

So you're saying that those excess deaths did not really occur or were murdered?

 

This conversation could be good or you can turn in into a pile of ****. You choose. Don't assume you know what I said when it isn't even close to what I said or try to put words in my mouth. It could be that the increased deaths could have been caused by another cause such as flue, another virus that we haven't found out about yet, listeria,some kind of other food poisoning, pneumonia, lack of good healthcare in that particular state due to relaxed laws that apply to assisted living. There are a million reasons that could be possible for the increased deaths of old people. Nobody said a word about "murder".

 

We had an old man on hospice who got coronavirus befor he passed. I really don't think that should count.

 

Cool. And?