why are americans so insistant on home schooling?

I really wonder about that. home schooling is strictly banned here in germany and authorities enforce our law very harsh. If some weirdos don't send their children to school, they have to pay massive penalties. If thats not enough, their children will be taken away and into custody of more responsible people. we believe children must have the ability to grow up with others of their age. get in contact with other ideas and concepts than their parents. its important to have a certain educational standard. children are not the property of their parents but independed persons. we see sometimes in media that americans make a huge firework about some cases here. the majority here sees that as laughable but i would like to know the basic idea behind that.

 

If parents have the ability to educate their own children, what concern is it of yours?

 

It worked so well in the 1930's didn't it.

 

Home schooling is used by conservative whackos to "protect" their children from exposure to ideas like gathering information and forming actual thoughts and opinions based on what they learned.

This is not a map of America's republican population, it's a map of America's high school graduation rate, with the higher rates in yellow and the lower rates in red.

 

Because that is the only way for many BIGOTS and EXTREMISTS to 'isolate' and 'indoctrinate' their children.

 

I think Germany takes it too far along the opposite end of the scale but to answer the raw question, I think there is a cultural theme that sees Americans brought up to believe that they (Americans in general) are better than everyone else which inevitably leads to the common opinion that they (as individuals) are better than everyone else. Among other things, that will lead to more parents thinking they could teach their children so much better than professional teachers.

 

The vast majority can't though. There is a reason professional teachers need qualifications, tests and reviews, even then specialising in specific subjects and age groups. I would argue that the number of cases where home schools would truly be the best option for everyone involved is relatively low.

I think those parents with the drive, time, resources and ability would be much better placed using that to augment the core education rather than trying to entirely replace it.

 

Either the parents cannot afford to send their child to a private school or the public school is absolutely terrible. Every school is different in the USA in terms of the administrators, teachers, and the student body with that in mind depending on the circumstance you could be destroying your child's future by sending them to public school. Also in terms of where I live I've seen home school education go well beyond that of public school... When you're taught Calculus at Junior/Senior level in High School I've seen children from home school education learning that level of mathematics at the age of nine or ten.

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Also to clarify about the current educational system in the USA. The system itself is being shifted to support more of the problem children and those with handicaps which leaves the ones who may be gifted to get shafted by the system. Just as I mentioned before some schools offer such a low quality in terms of education that there are high school graduates with the reading and/or writing ability of a 5th grader.

 

Why are Europeans so nosy about how other people raise their children?

 

Athens did not school their children. They educated them. Schooling is indoctrination. It started in Sparta. Prussia copied Sparta's model and America copied Prussia. Homeschooled children are educated people not indoctrinated people.

Government Schools Are Indoctrination Centers

 

Well I only read the first page of responses and see you've already gotten a fill of wacky responses from the willfully ignorant.

Schools were championed by nationalists in the 19th and 20th centuries because they are the best tools for indoctrination. That's just a fact, and schools remain a similarly used tool of the state.

Home schooling isnt common in America, but its legally protected. It allows parents to prevent their children from being indoctrinated, as well as to achieve a far higher standard of education. Multiple studies have shown that average homeschooled students out achieve public students, with average home school percentile scores being in the 80s and 90s. I hope that's not quite so laughable.

Edit: excuse any spelling errors, I'm posting from my phone.

 

Funny. That looks very similar to a racial demographic map.

 

Thank-you for that. Unless a child is bullied or can't keep up in a regular school, I am not a fan of home schooling. I find that most kids who are home schooled end up with poor socialization skills. One could say that's why they were taken out of regular schools in the first place, but after you see their screwed up parents, it becomes obvious why they're so messed up.

As a community, we need to do our civic duty and become more concerned about what goes on behind closed doors in our neighbor's homes. For all we know, there could be horrible abuse. Children need to be protected and we need to be vigilant and make sure they get healthcare, education, socialization and safety... whether their parents like it or not.

Parenthood doesn't trump civil liberties. Kids have basic rights and parents can't take those rights away.

 

They are so independent that they fall under the force of government. LOL Sounds like you believe children are the property of the State. I know of plenty of fine home schooled children here that network with other families, play like normal kids, and are not exposed to rigidly enforce State propaganda like you have been.

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So what does that say about liberal home schoolers? LOL

 

What is it that you're trying to say Troianii?

I HIGHLY doubt that liberals who are home schooled believe that humans walked side by side with dinosaurs. But many conservatives who were home schooled do.

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Looks like a map of the illegal alien invasion.

 

They certainly believe a lot of other nonsense but then some here do not like freedom of thought, do they?

 

Some of us believe that a rational set of standards should prevail. Conservatives not so much.

 

Some of you believe that "your" standards should be forced on everyone else. Freedom is so passe.

 

A rational set of standards you have to force people to follow at gunpoint... that doesn't seem rational to me.

 

I'm not aware of anyone being forced at gunpoint to do anything in this country. If you want to teach your children to believe that people rode dinosaurs you are legally free to do so. Just don't be surprised when they can't fit into normal society.

"They're all going to laugh at you!" (Line from the movie Carrie)
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Their ideas are so good they are mandatory.

 

In reference to the OP his government takes the children away from parents... not through persuasion but, through force. The same situations appear in the USA where the state comes into the homes of parents that the state considers unfit for parenting and takes the children away. Cases involving abuse are great examples of it being used fairly but, there are also cases in which children are taken from the home due to the political and/or philosophical ideology of the parents.

 

Actually in many areas in the US markus it is an attempt to insure that their children both survive and get an education. We have kids that graduate highschool that are functionally illiterate trouble makers. Most home schoolers want standards. What they don't want is their kids beaten and bullied or shot by irate classmates.

 

Maybe that's just what you've been indoctrinated to believe?

Home schooling doesn't prevent indoctrination, it only changes the source (and some parents who choose to homeschool do it primarily because they have strong socio-political opinions they do wish to impose upon their children). All forms of formal education, regardless of who is providing it and in what context, is indoctrination by definition. The only alternative is to throw children out in to the world and force them to learn everything from first principles for themselves.

Those homeschooled students who proceed to take formal examinations do indeed tend to score better but that's because that cohort tends to be highly performing children with educated parents how have the time and/or money to dedicate exclusively to their children's education or children with specific individual issues that make it difficult for them to work within a traditional school environment. If schools or other parents were able to provide the same level of one-to-one focused education, they'd achieve similar results. Those parents with high performing children in school but are also able to augment that because they have the education time and/or money will achieve as good or better results.