Why are Americans So Pro Israel

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Why are Americans so Pro-Israel

  1. Strong Jewish lobby in Washington

    28 vote(s)
    41.8%
  2. Guilt about the Holocaust

    9 vote(s)
    13.4%
  3. Revenge on Arabs for 9/11

    7 vote(s)
    10.4%
  4. Other

    40 vote(s)
    59.7%
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  1. Virgil Jones

    Virgil Jones Member Past Donor

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    I am beyond the point of negotiating with muslims. I have my views, I always will.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    well if were talking about the people in the government its because of the first option,a strong jewish lobby in washington known as AIPAC.they fund our corrupt congressmen there so they are strond supporters of Israel.Matter of fact every single president since LBJ has been guilty of giving aide to israel.

    If were talking about the american people,then its option B,guilt about the holocaust.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    i think you meant to say you do resent his statement right because its pure B.S.israel is pure hell bent on destroying the world and our corrupt government in the states ia aiding them.

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    thats part of it yes but that doesnt account for our corrupt congress who is bought off and paid for by them.
     
  4. Jenjen

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    I think people have the right to believe what they want. As I have the right to think they're nutjobs. I'm not trying to dictate what you believe. Just keep me out of it.

    A lot of things can be watched and used as evidence for both sides. This is not a simple disagreement.

    One observation... When I see the leaders of Israel speak about the situation, I don't hear them quoting the Torah or giving any goofy religious reason for their argument. The leaders of Hamas/al quaeda/etc all spout off Quran and Allah crap. Get an education, it helps. (Not you atabitaraf, them)

    I have respect for all people, of all religions or no religion. I do not make it my business to know what religion anyone adheres. It's not my business, don't make it my problem.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    there isnt a shread of evidence that the muslims did the 9/11 thing,the fact that half the alleged highjackers they said did it turned up alive dispells that myth.however the evidence is overwhelming that israel along with the CIA did do it.the fact that there were israel students jumping up and down celebrating on a rooftop who were arrested afterwards by some police officers who spotted themn and then were lt go afterwards back to israel is all the proof in the world of that,yet the american sheople still think muslims were behind the attacks.:roll::weed:
     
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    other way around dude.Israel is our closest ally indeed though because their government is even more corrupt than ours is.
     
  7. Jenjen

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    Dude, would you go there for a story?! Eff that. Lol

    But seriously, I have seen and heard stories from Gaza. Not on the (tv)news though, on the internet and you have to look for them. I've had the news on for a couple hours and haven't heard a word about Gaza, just the plane by Ukraine/Russia constantly.
     
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    I don't know about all that but...
    He has a point. We have funded and armed them throughout history. We've helped them become what they now are. Some would say we're still helping.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you're talking about Israel when saying go there for a story right?
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    damn straight.as i said earlier,anybody who has done any serious research knows that the CIA funded al -queda and has with other terrorist organizations in the past as well. so anyone who thinks the CIA is here to protect americans and is not an evil organization is just plain living in a glass bubble.:roll:
     
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    theres some muslin extremists out there that are a threat no doubt but that goes with every country out there though.there are americans that are killers but most are good people though,not very bright in the fact that half cant comprehend how corrupt our government really is and how both parties are corrupt,but good by nature,the people in palestine are being invaded by Israel all the time so of course your going to see some muslim extremists out there.However there are far more israelis that commit atrocities against mankind easily,its not even in the same ball park.the sinking of the uss libery by them,the list goes on and on.the proof is in the pudding the country of israel is far more corrupt than palestine.
     
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because that's how they're told and otherwise encouraged to think. The propaganda machine runs constantly.

    E.g. Ronstar.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    if so you aint kidding.the proof is in the pudding that going over to israel is far more dangerous than going to palestine.who can forget rachel corrie,the american girl the israli tanks purposely ran over?
     
  14. CKW

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    Many reasons actually. Israel is a civilized country that doesn't worship a culture of death. They have laws, a democratic political process that works, their productivity and innovation is an asset for the civilized world, are an ally...in the same category as France, Germany and etc. Perhaps the main reason...is that when Americans die, Israeli's don't rush out into the street and hand out candy, singing in celebration over the news.
     
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    Funny guy!
    I wouldn't go to either, personally, for different reasons. But, cmon, as a reporter I wouldn't go into Hamas ruled territory if I valued my life. Some will though, I'm sure.
     
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    As a kid growing up in the 1950's I was told we had to support Israel because it was the only Democracy in the middle east. Then also there was always Sunday School with their teaching that the Jews were God's chosen people. I am sure quite of both of these survives today. Then there was the oil embargo of the 70's and little Israel exported some oil our way while the nasty Arabs keep theirs to themselves. The Muslims of Iran taking over our Embassy and the hostages. This probably reinforced the first two items and then there was the blowing up of our Marines in Lebanon during Reagan. Throw in 9-11, the Muslim terrorist gangs in Germany blowing up night clubs, also in Indonesia, Qaddafi a muslin blowing up our Pan AM airliner.

    I suppose one could go on and on with examples, especially since Reagan, it always seems the Terrorist are either Arab or Muslim. Little Israel doesn't export Terrorism, although there was the USS Liberty. Then there is the mindset also since I was a kid, it is that little Israel standing up against the Arab Giants of Syria, Egypt, Jordon, Iraq, in all those wars. One country against many, its rah, rah root for the little guy. Sort of like the NCAA basketball tourney, we root for the Butlers, the VCU's the James Madison's, against the Dukes, North Carolina's, Kentucky's.

    Perhaps the Holocaust had something to do with our support of Israel back in the 50's and perhaps in the 60's, but to most Americans today that is ancient history. Also most Americans know nothing of the Jewish Lobby in D.C., but they do know 9-11. Now that is just another terrorist attack performed by Muslims in a very long series of attacks all over the world. I would just say subconsciously in most Americans mind, little Israel is the good guy.
     
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    Actually....its more like those who are against Israel are being emotionally manipulated into supporting their enemy that would destroy them given the chance. Its an old Satan trick up the sleeve thing.
     
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    But you are not, you quoted me. :)
     
  19. Jenjen

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    We agree on a lot. Especially the crap going on here at home.

    We do differ on Israelis/Muslims though. Israel is involved in this conflict. Muslims are involved in this and many other conflicts all across the globe and use these same violent measures everywhere. Muslim on Muslim violence seems to be the worst.
     
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    oh my god,this post is so much full of b.s its a sick joke. they are far from a being a civilized country and they sure as hell do worship a culture of death.:roll:

    apparently you are ignorant of the fact that police officers arrested israeli students who were caught cheering after the collapse of the towers on 9/11. they then got released and were allowed to be sent back to israel. and you're also clueless about how they bombed the USS LIBERTY knowing very well it was an american ship.oh and i guess Israli tanks never purposely ran over american citizen rachel corrie when she was in israel either? yeah right.:roll:

    yeah they dont sing in celebration over the news of the deaths of americans,they just stand on rooftops and dance to it.:roll:
     
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    hardly.Israeli violence is the worst.they are the ones that are trying to occupy palestine and the rest of the world.Muslins arent the ones that go around sinking us naval ships and contrary to the lies spread by the CIA controlled media,Israel is up to their shoulders involved in 9/11 with them.the CIA and mossad work hand in hand together.

    again dont forget it was israeli students who were arrested after 9/11 by policemen for celebrating the destruction of the towers and let go and sent back to israel after the attacks,not muslims.and last i checked,muslims didnt take a tank and run over american rachel corrie purposely,it was the military of Israel gal.
     
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    Rachel Corrie entered a combat zone on the side of the Palestinian fighters and purposely got in the way. Its too bad, but her purpose was to go to the middle east and join the Palestinians against Israel during a combat situation. I really don't have any sympathy for her---Just wish she hadn't gone there.

    I'm sure you don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the Israeli kids killed in a pizza place by suicide bombers or the Israeli people killed by the bombs on buses. Its just a matter of what side a person is on. .
     
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    lol....a tank???????
     
  24. Jenjen

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    We can argue about Palestine but its pointless. Israel is not trying to occupy the rest of the world nevertheless. Really?
    You don't think Muslims would sink a naval ship if they could? That only speaks for competence, not intent. Yes, Israel did sink that ship. I don't excuse that. At least it was a military target with military personnel unlike the passenger jets... The shops and buses blown up by suicide bombers.

    As for Israelis cheering... If that true, it's awful and those are crappy people. Those, that did it. But it isn't illegal to be a jerk off. And jerks come in all races and religions.

    Rachel Corie... You know what I know her name. It was a terrible thing for her to die. It was a rare and isolated incident. That's why I do know her name.
    I don't know the names of any Muslim victims. There's too many and the individuals get lost in the pile.

    200,000 Muslims are dead in Syria already at the hands of other Muslims. Numerous in Iraq. Where's the outrage? What about Muslims in Africa?

    Its ludicrous to believe that Israelis are causing more death and destruction than Islamic extremists. What is blinding you? Or what do you know that I don't? Your examples do not support your claim.
     
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    1. Other religions aren't doing terrorist attacks around the world with the frequency of radical Muslims.
    2. So you are saying that the U.S. attacked itself with radical Muslims? You can't be serious.
     

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