Why are Americans So Pro Israel

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Why are Americans so Pro-Israel

  1. Strong Jewish lobby in Washington

    28 vote(s)
    41.8%
  2. Guilt about the Holocaust

    9 vote(s)
    13.4%
  3. Revenge on Arabs for 9/11

    7 vote(s)
    10.4%
  4. Other

    40 vote(s)
    59.7%
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  1. Thehumankind

    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    Israel is the US extension in the middle east.
     
  2. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Israel is not tolerant of the natives and doesn't treat them with equality.. They certainly are NOT free in Gaza and the West Bank.
     
  3. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    They are in the context of defensive war.. additionally, Muslims are not to kill children, women, the elderly... or livestock.. They are not to destroy trees, crops, buildings or water sources and they are bound to go to the peace table if the enemy indicates ANY willingness to do so.
     
  4. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None, like the relevance this question has to the discussion.
     
  5. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is from same holy book that says disbelief is worse than killing? Cite a passage, if you would.

    Also, it'd not considered a defensive war if yyou are the aggressor, even if the other guys are winning.
     
  6. Margot2

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    Citing a passage doesn't convey the whole message on defensive war or the rules of warfare. Muslims are taught in the Koran not to bother people of the Book or even pagans unless they make mischief in the land.
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Killing innocent families is not sanctioned by either the Torah nor the Qur'an, nor will citing selective scriptural passages from either end the slaughter.

    If those mutually responsible ever decide to stop perpetuating the carnage, it will be by achieving a political solution, not by the extermination of one by the other, nor by proclaiming oneself the more righteous in the effort.
     
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    There are Palestinians in the Knesset. Palestinians are Israeli citizens. Muslims have their mosques in Israel. Palestinians hold jobs and live with their families in Israel. Palestinian kids go to school in Israel.

    Now, how do Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank treat their Jewish neighbors in Gaza and the West Bank? How many synagogues are in Gaza and the West Bank? Have the Palestinians expressed any desire for peace that does not include the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews?
     
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    Have you actually seen the West Bank?? Jewish only settlements are on every hilltop.. Jewish only roads are everywhere and raw Jewish sewage is run downhill and dumped on Palestinian villages. Palestinians are cut off from the fields, schools, mosques and relatives by these Jewish only roads.
     
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    The simple fact is this, if the Palestinians have equal rights then Palestinians at some future point could have a majority in Israel, would this be allowed by the Israeli State. No Israel by its very definition must remain a Jewish State.
     
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    They're also taught that Muslim land is any land where Muslims have ruled or been a majority. So they still claim the Balkans, Spain, and France. Does that make sense to you?
     
  12. reallybigjohnson

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    Would you want to support a religion that spreads violence and despair wherever it ends up being the majority.
     
  13. Margot2

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    Our oldest and most stable/reliable ally in the ME is Saudi Arabia and they have been since the 1930s.. Plus, they haven't been on the dole for 60 years.

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    What a silly lie.. Muslims are not claiming Spain, France or the Balkans.. Your propaganda falls flat.
     
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    Just trying to understand where the American interest lies in promoting the ethnic cleansing of them in a land thousands of miles from the US
     
  15. Troianii

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    My "propaganda" and "lie" is drawn directly from the Koran. :applause:

    Having trouble understanding a non-existent issue? I guess I can understand that.
     
  16. CJtheModerate

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    That is debatable.

    I would attempt to argue with this, but you are so devoted to the idea that Islam is a religion of peace that it is a waste of time and effort to argue with you.

    Here's an earlier post where I demonstrate clearly that Islam is NOT a religion of peace. Of course, these will probably be disregarded as "out of context" or "mistranslations".

     
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    It was a legitimate query so if being this wilfully obtuse works for you rather than addressing it then go knock yourself out :roll:
     
  18. Margot2

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    Notice the gaps in sequence?? Where have you lived in the ME and how long were you there?
     
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    What?

    I have never and will never live in the Middle East for any period of time. Quite frankly, an infidel from America living in the Middle East is like a cow living in the slaughterhouse.
     
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    All those verses refer to a context of war.
     
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    No, there is nothing legitimate about calling the conflict occurring in the Middle East "ethnic cleansing".
     
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    America is pro-Israel because the Palestinians commit terrorism, support and Islamic extremist party, and target civilians for murder.
     
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    I am an American....and do not like Israel in the least. But I dislike Muslim extremists even more.
     
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    and also americans are largely of german descent as are jewish ppl. Cronyism.
     
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    I support freedom. Democracy, self rule, & basic human rights are the issue, for me. Israel promotes that better than hamas or any of the muslim caliphate promoters.

    I am not 'against' palestine. Israel treats the palestinians a lot better than they would treat the israelis, if palestinians were in power. They have rights in israel.

    The followup question is this:

    Why are europeans so anti-israel? Why do they support the muslim caliphate & oppose democracy & human rights?

    But have no fear. Human rights & freedom are on the run, & they will soon be engulfed in the statist purge, once america as an ideology is ended. Tyranny & statist oppression can have free reign, & those standing up for individual rights will be swept away by the tide of state centered, nanny state control. The caliphate will grow, & eliminate israel, & europe will again bow down to the new monarchies they are building. America will follow suit, as they usually do, gazing with loving adoration at anything european.

    Then we can get back to old fashioned imperialism, where we conquer the weak & take their stuff. That is really what the state does best, so it is about time we empowered them to do that, instead of the silly notion of protecting people's basic rights.
     

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