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Why are atheists atheists?

Discussion in 'Humor & Satire' started by Wolverine, Aug 1, 2012.

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  1. fishmatter

    fishmatter New Member

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    Yeah, that's what I thought. You don't get it.
     
    fishmatter, Aug 3, 2012
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  2. Southern Man

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    Apology accepted.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 4, 2012
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  3. Southern Man

    Southern Man New Member

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    I sense fear.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 4, 2012
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  4. fishmatter

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    Not at all. You're just making stuff up.
     
    fishmatter, Aug 4, 2012
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  5. Southern Man

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    Prove it.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 5, 2012
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  6. fishmatter

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    That's rich, a supernaturalist demanding proof for something.

    Just take it on faith. Or point at something you don't understand and use that as proof. You're used to that, aren't you?
     
    fishmatter, Aug 5, 2012
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  7. Southern Man

    Southern Man New Member

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    I gave you evidence, just that you rejected it. Now its your turn.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 5, 2012
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  8. fishmatter

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    You cited the anthropic principle, right? Where n=1. That's a pretty small sample space to draw conclusions about fine tuning, don't you think?
     
    fishmatter, Aug 5, 2012
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    My turn to what?
     
    fishmatter, Aug 5, 2012
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  10. Southern Man

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    Provide evidence that I am "just making stuff up." Duh.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 5, 2012
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    I already did. Remember how this started? You said that atheists are atheists because they hate god. I'm an atheist. I don't hate god.

    Pretty straightforward, actually.
     
    fishmatter, Aug 5, 2012
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    Provide evidence that I "just made that up".
     
    Southern Man, Aug 5, 2012
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    You mean prove I don't hate god? How can I hate something I don't believe in? It seems like a senseless claim to make in the first place.
     
    fishmatter, Aug 5, 2012
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    Add to this the problem that belief - real, deep down, honest belief - is not a "choice." It's what we know based on our experiences and knowledge.
     
    Durandal, Aug 5, 2012
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's an emotional deflection on his part, of course. It's easier to accuse you of hating his precious god than to debate the facts involved.
     
    Durandal, Aug 5, 2012
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    And there is no room in his tiny worldview for the possibility that he could be wrong. In his mind it is impossible not to believe. It's very sad.
     
    fishmatter, Aug 6, 2012
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  17. Southern Man

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    Irony:
     
    Southern Man, Aug 6, 2012
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    Straw man fallacy now. Fail.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 6, 2012
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    Not really - because you try to create a world where the sentence "every scientist and philosopher has to be an atheist" should become 'true'. You don't need a conspiracy theory - your are a conspiracy theory. You are forcing "us" to fight the everlasting fight for life.

    http://youtu.be/oCpom1z2BMg
     
    Anobsitar, Aug 6, 2012
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    Look, I'm trying here. Don't make me guess. What is it you want me to prove? Am I mistaken? Wasn't it you who said that atheists are atheists because they hate god?
     
    fishmatter, Aug 6, 2012
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    What, is it possible you could be wrong? I'm certainly open to the possibility I am.
     
    fishmatter, Aug 6, 2012
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  22. Southern Man

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    Sure, I could be a science experiment in a petri dish I suppose, but a reasonable assessment of the available evidence suggests otherwise.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 6, 2012
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    RPA,
    All of those questions have been answered. I know as a matter of regular actual fact where all of those came from, how they were formed and who did the forming and order of them. See, I am not an atheist, nor do I follow the religions of your world so do not make assumptions nor jump to conclusions, although it will occur anyway.
     
    Alif Qadr, Aug 6, 2012
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  24. Durandal

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    Now there is irony, to see you speak of a given scenario being unreasonable in light of the available evidence.
     
    Durandal, Aug 6, 2012
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  25. Southern Man

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    What?

    6 char
     
    Southern Man, Aug 6, 2012
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