Why are distant skylines at the same angle upwards if the Earth is curved ?

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  1. MissingMayor

    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    That he asks "IF the world is curved" at least half a dozen time belies his one parenthetical mention that he believes it is.
     
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    What the **** is wrong with you? Seriously. He literally said he believe the world was curved. He is simply asking someone to clarify something for him. If I ask "If the Romans were such great engineers and scientists how come they used lead in their pipes" It doesn't mean I don't think they are great engineers its simply a question on a particular issue.
     
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    That's kind of a bad example. The fact that you put "If the Romans were such great engineers", keyword if, in the sentence kind of leads me to believe you are trying to prove they are not great engineers. It is an indirect jab at the competence of Roman engineers. Hence the many subtleties of the English language.

    Why not just leave that out and simply say "Why did the Romans use lead in their pipes, when lead is poisonous?".

    So here is my attempt at fixing the OPs question so it can't be misinterpreted at a jab.

    Why are'nt objects at a far distance on the horizon at an angle, when we know the earth's surface is curved.
     
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    If he hadn't stipulated that he believed the world was curved then you would have a point. But he stated it and in fact the people claiming he was a flat earther actually posted his quote with his statement right in there saying he believed the earth was curved. Its a far cry from a poorly worded question to being a flat earther. The evidence was right in front of them in the very quote they copy/pasted and they refused to see it or they weren't intelligent enough to comprehend it which is ironic since they were essentially saying the OP was stupid.

    I happen to like questions like these cause its not something you think about everyday and reading the responses is educational.
     
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    One Word.....Distance.
     
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  6. Sauk

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    Well, seeing as how I clearly stated in the OP that I know the Earth is curved, guys like @Lesh deserved to be called out for their disregard of facts.
     
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    I appreciate you clarify thing for those who didn't bother to read my OP :)
     
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    so does that make what I said in parentheses invalid ? or are you just back tracking after failing to bash a Trump supporter ?
     
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    It contradicts it. If you truly don't question something you shouldn't question it so many times in your op.
     
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    Lead, by itself, is not a necessarily a problem in pipes. Lead has to be ingested by the body to cause a problem. It only becomes a problem when leached into the water, generally by slightly acidic water. Lead was approved by national codes for pipes up into the 1970s.

    Don't get me wrong. it should be banned because iti is potentially a problem.
     
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    it is how your eye/brain interpret the information.
     
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    The image below shows a man standing on a small island located in Alaska who is viewing a small island located in Russia.

    diomede.jpg
     
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    it is not a matter of interpreting.. The human brain and eyes are not capable of discerning that small a difference. It is comparable to seeing a germ with your naked eye.
     
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    Yea I was wrong about the Russia thing. Mea culpa. That image, not yours but the one of the man standing on the earth looking at building in another hemisphere is still ridiculously scaled though.
     
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    A post at a distance of 20 yards, leaning directly away from you at an angle of 20 degrees will be interpreted similarly.
    Light being reflected off of a 3 dimensional object is being projected onto a flat retina. The object will be interpreted as being shorter than it really is and vertical.
     
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    LOL, yeah now you're backtracking. Asking for clarification is not the same as not believing the Earth is flat. Holy fail, batman !
     
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    It does not make any difference whether your brain interprets it correctly or not. The eyes are simply not capable to seeing that small a difference.

    You are asking your brain to see something which is equivalent to a ball ten inches in diameter from a distance of twenty miles. It would not even be a speck. You wouldn't be able to see it.
     
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    The interpretation is the thoughts your brain creates to explain to yourself what you think you see.
     
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    I have a guy that will argue that point until the cows come home :) Anymore I just tell him "You know Man has been to space and orbited the round earth, right" :) He quiets down at that point!
     
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    We have science and conspiracy theory forums. This belongs in one of those, mostly the latter.

    But to give my opinion about why something at a distance doesn't appear to lean, I suspect that such an object disappears over the horizon before it can reach a different enough angle to appear so slanted. It also doesn't help that it would be "leaning" directly away from the observer, which would be less apparent than a slant in most other directions.
     
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    What Alaska has no mountains? Does anyone think outside the box anymore :(
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    Alaska has the third tallest mountain in the world. Mount McKinley or Mount Denali, whichever, you prefer.
     
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    Beating a dead horse, but for the last time. Even, if your brain interpreted correctly what you see, you would not be able to see the leaning of the buildings, because the amount of leaning is too small.
     
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    It depends on the size of the curve. To see the Earth's curve, you'd have to climb up to the top of Mt. Everest on a very clear day. To see the horizon, like Columbus watching approaching ships, you'd need about 3 miles. Conversely, if a skyline was about 3 miles away, to even begin to see the buildings angle away from each other, they'd had to be over 3 miles apart.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon
     
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    If the Earth were transparent, it would never reach such an angle.

    It wouldn't be apparent at all.
     

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