Why blacks are in such bad shape

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've been doing some reading the last few days, to try to understand why the black community in the USA is in such bad shape.

    First of all, we need to look at how they were before Johnson's Great Society programs.

    Before 1968, black poverty rate was upwards of 60%.

    But, black single-parent homes was around 20%.

    Today, black poverty is at at least 27%.

    So, while poverty in the black community has greatly improved, single-parent households have jumped immensely.

    why?

    well, first think I looked at was the Moynihan Report, which blames much of this on welfare, food stamps, section 8, WIC, and other entitlements for the poor.

    these programs, unfortunately, enable single-parent homes and even promote them, as benefits for a family reduce significantly if a single mother marries someone, and even more if this someone gets a job.

    when facing the choice between being single with kids, and having a husband with kids, the financial choice is often to stay single..so her kids will be fed.

    luckily, welfare reform and the Earned Income Tax Credit, has stopped the increase in single-parent homes in the black community, as it doesn't penalize mothers for having a partner, regardless of his level of income.

    but it turns out, another government program has had a major effect on black men.

    the drug laws of the 1980s and 1990s, which mandated minimum sentences for possession of small amounts of crack, have decimated the lives of black men.

    the minimum sentence for possession of 5 grams of crack, is 100 times worse than the minimum sentence for the same volume of cocaine.

    what this meant, was that millions of Americans, mostly black men, were being sentenced to decades in prison for possession of crack, while mostly white folks possessing similar amounts of coke had much shorter sentences.

    and with these long felony sentences, came the inability to restart one's life after they left prison (not that one can easily start again after being in prison for a decade or more).

    due to a lack of good low-skilled jobs in the inner city, many blacks sold crack. this decision, basically ended their lives.

    so, welfare rules + the extreme disparity in crack/cocaine rules, basically guarunteed black male Americans a future of nothingness.

    luckily, again, these rules have been amended, so that the sentencing disparity between crack and coke is seriously reduced, but two generations of black men may have been totally screwed.

    hopefully, the next two generations will be better off.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs#Arrests_and_incarceration

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_For_National_Action
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    now, does a sub-culture that glorifies, celebrates, and emulates violence and a lack of empathy for fellow human beings contribute to this?

    of course.

    but family, is where it all begins.

    and a lack of strong fathers, seems to be a very strong reason for the current struggles of the black community
     
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    You pretty much covered it. The system appears to be undermining and attacking Black men.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it is very possible that the extreme disparity between crack and coke drug crime sentences, was to target blacks.

    even if that wasn't the intention, it surely was the result.
     
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    this may explain in part:



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/14/1421036/-Owning-a-BMW-while-black-more-proof-of-NYPD-racism



    Owning a BMW while black, more proof of NYPD racism



    Woman Says She Endured 8 Days In Psych Ward Because Cops Didn't Believe BMW Was Hers

    NEW YORK -- Kamilah Brock says the New York City police sent her to a mental hospital for a hellish eight days, where she was forcefully injected with powerful drugs, essentially because they couldn't believe a black woman owned a BMW.
    In her first on-camera interview about her ordeal, which aired Thursday, the 32-year-old told PIX11 that it was all a "nightmare."

    The excuse the cops used to detain her is pathetic. I should have been given 100 tickets if the law was applied without racial prejudice.
    The suit details how Brock pulled up to a traffic light in Harlem on Sept. 12, 2014, the music on her car stereo playing loudly. An NYPD officer approached her and asked why she was driving without her hands on the steering wheel, according to the suit.
    It is not just the NYPD, obviously the psych ward personnel needs to be retrained;
    Medical records also show that over the course of her eight-day stay, personnel at the hospital repeatedly tried to get Brock to deny three things before she could be released: that she owned the BMW, that she was a professional banker, and that President Barack Obama followed her on Twitter.
    The lawsuit says it was these three assertions that were the basis for the city determining that Brock was delusional and to diagnose her with bipolar disorder.

    Obama doesn't follow me on Twitter. How did she get him to do that. Perhaps I should contact her.
    The pattern of racism and pure incompetence in light of the recent arrest of James Blake.
     
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    The worst thing you can do to a minority is to focus and scrutinize them. I suggest you leave these good people alone.
     
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    "Why blacks are in such bad shape"

    Lower IQ and more disposed towards violence.
     
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    you didn't even read the OP
     
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    exactly what the Nazis said about Jews
     
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    The Left refuses to admit the negative impact that feminism and the normalization of single parenthood has had in the black community. As such, they look for other causes and the usual slavery/Jim Crow card is invoked.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The Nazi card isn't a response. That's a weak guilt by association fallacy. There is a large average 15 point IQ gap between blacks and whites that exists, and crying "Hitler!" doesn't cover it.
     
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    mebbe in your mind it is not a response - but the wording is remarkably similar -- in fact, precisely the same
     
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    It's not a response. Perhaps next you'll tell us that building highways will lead to death camps since Hitler built the Autobahn.

    Reasoning such as, "David Duke said 5+5=10 is true so if you say that, you're a Klansman!"

    It's amazing adults are even invoking such poor reasoning.
     
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    you still cannot deny the similarity of the language used by you against blacks and the Nazis against Jews
     
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    Speaking of low IQ's...................:roll:
     
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    White man trying to buy gun shoots self in penis — blames it on a black guy


    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/whi...hoots-self-in-penis-blames-it-on-a-black-guy/


    A South Dakota man is currently in custody after telling police officers he was shot in the penis by a “black guy” when he actually shot himself while attempting to purchase a gun illegally, reports the Argus Leader.

    Convicted felon Donald Anthony Watson, 43, was admitted to a local emergency room late at night on Sept. 6 for a gunshot wound to his penis, and told local law enforcement that he had been shot during a botched robbery.

    According to the arrest report, Watson said he was shot by “a black guy (who) tried to rob” him while he was taking out the trash at his apartment.

    Investigators who went to Watson’s apartment said there was no evidence of a shooting outside, but neighbors told them they heard screaming coming from his apartment earlier in the evening.

    After obtaining a search warrant, officer entered his home and found blood, bullet fragments, and an empty gun case.

    Pressed by police, Watson admitted that he made the story up and was looking at a handgun he was thinking about buying and placed it in his pocket where it went off, with the bullet hitting his genitals.

    Watson — who refused to tell police where the gun disappeared to — has been charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, possession of a firearm by a drug offender, and two counts of false reports to law enforcement.







    God punishes!
     
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    The Congressional Black Caucus supported the 1986 law that made those disparate sentences for crack and cocaine.
     
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    Blacks are in bad shape because of racism. It's all explained in the bible, you should read it if you are interested in " African Americans "
     
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    Death camps already exist in America, prisons. Stick around purple you'll see how it all works. Hitler couldn't get away with what he did so he switched up his style
     
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    Lol!!!! Racism against blacks has nothing to do with the Bible.
     
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    Of course it has biblical connotations. I've read the bible and it is clear to me that this is where it began, a jealousy of sorts from the gentile
     
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    Just cause it is "clear" to you doesn't make it real. The Earth being flat and the Sun revolving around the Earth made a lot of sense to many folks until we learned different.

    And BTW, no offense, but most of the Bible is silly fantasy.
     
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    That still does not deny the fact it is clear to me that racism against blacks stems and derives from the core literature of the bible
     

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