Why computers* will not become self aware.

D-Waves quantum computers have been shown not to be classical but there have not been any exponential speed ups that a quantum computer should have. No doubt they have accomplished a lot but I don't think we are quite there.

 

Are other "intelligent" mammals self-aware? If so how? What is the fundamental reason machine intelligence cannot develop self-awareness? To expand your knowledge on AI you should read Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom.

Link me some peer reviewed papers where people lose self-awareness with some neural activity present. Of course this requires an operational definition of self-awareness which you do not have.

 

D-Wave Systems, after some 12 years of research, the accumulation of 60 patents, and the filing of 100 more, has finally released the world’s first commercial quantum computer. The computer, which has been labelled with the wondrously adventurous name “D-Wave One”, is outfitted with a 128-qubit (quantum bit) chipset that performs just a single task — discrete optimization — and costs $10,000,000 dollars.

LINK....http://www.extremetech.com/computin...quantum-computer-now-available-for-10-million

Michael Feldman
On Wednesday, D-Wave Systems made history by announcing the sale of the world’s first commercial quantum computer. The buyer was Lockheed Martin Corporation, who will use the machine to help solve some of their “most challenging computation problems.” Lockheed purchased the system, known as D-Wave One, as well as maintenance and associated professional services. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

D-Wave One uses a superconducting 128-qubit (quantum bit) chip, called Rainier, representing the first commercial implementation of a quantum processor. An early prototype, a 16-qubit system called Orion, was demonstrated in February 2007. At the time, D-Wave was talking about future systems based on 512-qubit and 1024-qubit technology, but the 128-qubit Rainier turned out to be the company’s first foray into the commercial market.

According to D-Wave co-founder and CTO Geordie Rose, D-Wave One, the technology uses a method called “quantum annealing” to solve discrete optimization problems. While that may sound obscure, it applies to all sorts of artificial intelligence-type applications such as natural language processing, computer vision, bioinformatics, financial risk analysis, and other types of highly complex pattern matching.

LINK....http://www.hpcwire.com/2011/05/26/d-wave_sells_first_quantum_computer/

AboveAlpha

 

What is available commercially and what exists in the deep recesses of U.S. Military Black Programs are two very different things.

The U.S. and Canada both Military and Private Military Vendors have a large number of ASTOUNDING programs that are not available for the publics eyes or knowledge.

I don't think I have to explain why we must make certain that some specific Nations never get their hands on Highly Advanced North American Computer Technology.

AboveAlpha

 

There exist whispers of U.S. Military A.I. Programs and when I mean whispers I mean positively super mouth to ear quiet communication.

Quantum Computation was the missing element to such long existing programs as a Binary System simply would never allow an Artificial Intelligence to exist.

AboveAlpha

 

While this is indeed possible it still is merely speculative.

 

Not really that speculative.

AboveAlpha

 

self-a·ware

adj
knowing self well: having a balanced and honest view of your own personality, and often an ability to interact with others frankly and confidently



-self-a·ware·ness, n
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Well, if the comments made in replies are any indication it seems the claims made in my OT will stand. No real sentient AI in the near future, ie the next 1-100 years. Sentience means a machine that thinks its self aware. Worse, I don't think even a hundred years AI that is both sentient and can operate on the same amount of energy as a human brain and be the same mass and dimensions ie capacity about 2000>2300 cc's. will be enough time. Of course this is barring a fantastic discovery. I do see computers overcoming the silicon barrier. After that I am sure machine intelligence will again expand exponentially not every ten years but every year or less. In the near future 3d printing, nano technology and problems such as the nerve to wire impasse will be overcome allowing humans to merge with machine to some degree, but unlike skynet and more like everyone becoming super Einsteins. If Jesus does not come back our salvation just might be via HAL. Instead of open the pod bay doors hall it may be solve all the worlds problems HAL....


reva

 

You would really like Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom. He discusses predictions for when a "superintelliegence" will emerge, what possible ways it could and potential hazards. No one knows when machine intelligence will meet human level intelligence, but smarter technology has been responsible for the exponential growth of the economy. Global GDP doubles roughly every 6 years, soon it will double every 3 years, so on and so forth. By the time of machine intelligence it will double every two weeks.

 

No.

Such a request is utterly hilarious, considering there are millions of people who are chronically devoid of self-awareness though inside their craniums there is presumably neural activity aplenty.

Of course I do. Your inability or refusal to comprehend that definition hardly testifies to any deficiency in my position.

 

Let me ponder your profound responses that display a supreme understanding of self-awareness. Are mammals self-aware? No. Wow, what a remarkable way of looking at self-awareness. I don't think anyone else could give such an aesthetic response.

 

You'd do better to jerk yer head outa yer ass.

 

I pity those who have a small mind. Must be claustrophobic.

 

Interesting how a mind can get so "big" that the tiniest, most elementary truths won't fit inside it.

 

You know Rev....I really had hoped you would be right....because honestly....of the bit I do know about current Black A.I. Projects....well....It scares the HELL out of me.

This is not some Hollywood Sci-Fi Movie Plot.

It's not fantasy and it's not 100's of years in the Future.

It's.....RIGHT NOW!!! And as I stated...it scares the HELL out of me.

Once we developed Quantum Systems that was it....that's when I knew it was just a matter of time....and the time is now.

AboveAlpha

 

Myself, I have long loved the Turing Test. It is an interesting mental game, but I question it's real application anymore.

In fact, I bet that a good percentage of people who post in here would fail a Turing Test if it was given to them.

Person A: I think you are wrong, and here is a reference that says you are incorrect in your claim.

Person B: I do not care what your reference says, I am right. And I think you fornicate with clams, so you do not know what you are talking about.

Person A: Well, here is another reference that says you are misinformed, and here is another which explains in detail what you are not getting.

Person B: Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries.

Person A: I do not understand you.

Person B: Do you enjoy I do not understand you?

 

Well, I might be completely off here, but if it scares the hell out of you than maybe there's something to be said for slow evolutionary intelligence. The aggressive, mad dog gets taken out early on.

So, I think, a lot of morality and social etiquette was driven on by natural selection.

 

Well...ancent man had to compete for resources such as food, water, shealter, hunting grounds and yes...women.

So your probably right.

AboveAlpha

 

On the other hand, it would be worth it if any AI managed to sidestep the nuclear option by learning manners the quick and easy way. Have a talk.

 

This really is not much of a joke as an enormous amount of care must be taken to basically govern the evolutionary growth of a true Artificial Intelligence.

I only have heard whispers but what I have heard is that the development of A.I. is such a possible threat that people working on it cannot bring in anything electronic from a cell phone or PDA to even a watch!!

If an A.I. was/is developed than multiple levels of security are needed to assure it could not access the Internet.

After all we would have absolutely no idea what it is and what it thinks of us.

AboveAlpha

 

I know it's not a joke. I just thought it would be interesting to talk to it.

I can't really comprehend how an AI's evolution is governed. But I guess the people in charge know what they're doing. Or maybe they don't but one would think that in order to lead an evolution some concept of what they're doing is needed.

Where's the Mind-Machine interface? We'll have to talk to it eventually, unless we want it to have a total black out with no sensory perception whatsoever.

It would probably be bored out of its mind.

 

Since an Quantum Computational A.I. System would have no limitations of the flesh or brain it's evolutionary development would exist upon a rate that would be exponetial in nature.

It's growth and evolution would have to be governed or limited.

AboveAlpha

 

Okay, I understand.

In fact I'm a bit jealous of the A.I. System.

 

There is a very interesting movie that came out a short while ago staring Joaquim Pheonix called...HER.

It is about a guy who buy's the worlds first commercially sold A.I. Operating System.

You will like it...check it out.

AboveAlpha