Why did anyone think "defunding" the police was a good idea?

To me it staggers the mind that ANYONE thought "defunding" the police was a good idea that had any chance of improving the behavior of local police forces in this country.

Why would anyone think this?

 

no one did, they believe in having medical care do some of the tasks of police, like responding to non-violent mental crisis 911 calls

'defunding the police' was a bad choice of words, the most anyone meant by that was demilitarizing the police

 

Why?

 

because for one, police are not trained for it, nor want to handle it, professional in the field are better trained

why don't police put out fires... cause fireman are better suited for the job

police can go and assist, in case needed, but should not be primary in such cases

 

Libertarians cant complain about the misnomer honestly.

 

The marxists are trying to bring down the American way of life in order to install their own way. Defunding police helps them by increasing crime and fear.

 

How does crime promote Marxism?

 

They still need the same number of policeman. You send those healthcare workers by themselves and they get ambushed like happened to police responding to a false domestic violence complaint. The procedures proposed cost more and yet many cities reduced funding to police.

 

You don't get it, do you?
It's not about removing money from law enforcement. It's about using the best tools for the jobs at hand.
Not every situation should be handled with a swat team mentality.
Better community support services should be encouraged and brought into the mix of available responses in a particular situation.
More important is to change the current police mentality and return to the serve and protect philosophy I knew as a kid.

 

Except a large number of cities did reduce funding to the police.

The police have nearly a million encounters with the civilian population per day. A very tiny percent ends up going bad. Those isolated incident get rehashed repeatedly until the knowing public believes that is what happens a high percent of the time. The police are being held to an impossibly high standard.

The hatred of the police has resulted in early police retirements and harder recruiting. Please explain how this is an improvement.

 

Yeah let’s have more of these

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/social-workers-field-safety-remains-concern-killing-82162962

Not armed like an officer would have been. So she died because you folks put her in harms way without the ability or capability or training to defend herself. But if she wanted to keep her job, she had better respond.

Great ****ing job

 

Most people don't want to defund the police.

 

Another reason for the DP's vulnerability to the hapless RP this election cycle.

 

Try harder because DCFS's policy has zilch to do with the so-called "defund the police"


"The attack on Silas also marked the 21st time since 2017 that caseworkers were subject to “threats or acts of violence” during 2.5 million home visits in Illinois, agency spokesman Bill McCaffrey said.

Her death has raised questions of why case workers are sent into potentially volatile environments alone, and whether understaffing — a problem that has plagued DCFS for decades despite a federal consent decree regulating it — affects the response of caseworkers in the field.

“DCFS, if you’re sending someone into a situation like this, just send two at a time,” Silas’ father, Roy Graham, said last week. “Whether it’s a male and female or two males or two females, either way, but send two per visit, not just one.”

 

Very small number. Just like it is a very small number of police encounters which end up bad. However, both are increasing.

 

Why do you think it staggers the mind that ANYONE thought "defunding" the police was a good idea? We have in this country a millions of people whos ideas 'stagger the mind'.
For example millions of Americans support the Fifth Amendment US Constitution which says:
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...".
but instead trusting results of over 60 trials which did not find any evidence of election fraud, they trust politician who blame opposite party to 'stealing' elections.

Defunding police was stupid idea? Yes, very stupid idea, instead defunding police we need invest more money to teach police what is improper behavior. It also makes economical sense:
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourn...ice-misconduct-suits/?slreturn=20220915100448

 

It doesn't. It hurts the society and undermines law enforcement. Undermining law enforcement helps the marxists achieve their goal by increasing fear in the population.

 

Well, no. The slogan has a long and specific history.

". . . The "defund the police" slogan became common during the George Floyd protests starting in May 2020.[6] According to Jenna Wortham and Matthew Yglesias, the slogan was popularized by the Black Visions Collective shortly after the murder of George Floyd.[7][8]

Black Lives Matter, the Movement for Black Lives, and other activists have used the phrase to call for police budget reductions and to delegate certain police responsibilities to other organizations.[9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16] In Black Reconstruction in America, first published in 1935, W. E. B. Du Bois wrote about "abolition-democracy", which advocated for the removal of institutions that were rooted in racist and repressive practices, including prisons, convict leasing, and white police forces. In the 1960s, activists such as Angela Davis advocated for the defunding or abolition of police departments.[17] The 2017 book The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale has been called "a manual of sorts for the defund movement".[18] . . . "

Defund the police - Wikipedia

 

I guess you'd have to explain your understanding of that "defunding" means.

 

Your guess is as good as mine.

 

Let's not pretend that defund or abolish the police wasn't exactly what some people were after.

Your angle on the topic was a position that the more moderate left had taken and yet it is still a dipshit hopes and dres idea.

Chaz or chops main premise was no police. Remember? And how did that work out?

 

Of course that is a totally valid question with no justifying answer.
A logical answer is that when people become so preoccupied with a particular incident or issue, they become blinded to all the elements of it other than what they are obsessed with.

Not too unlike not refusing to make your house payments because you think the "new equity" entitles you to a home anyway, then being shocked when you are evicted and your house repossessed.
People... are getting dumber, because basic values are being diluted, and especially- ignored by people in leadership; rule makers who ignore their own rules and set bad examples.
We now want to protect people from the consequences of their own bad decisions- and teach them there are no consequences. Pay off student loans, because they say the burden is oppressive.

The ACT test scores have just been reported. That is a test that covers primary subjects (math, english, etc) in 12th grade students, kind of a reference to being college ready or not. Not good news, the downward trend of past years continues. The nation is the sum of all it's people- and depends on all to put in more than they take out. We get dumber- we make more dumb decisions, do more dumb things.

Defunding police may not the top of the list, but it's close

 

For the record I have been and always will be against cutting law enforcement funding. If anything, funding should be increased. Let me repeat that…funding should be INCREASED.
That being said, of the roughly 19k+ towns/cities in the US, how many actually “defunded”? And by “defunded” we know that to actually mean to cut down funding.

 

Has there been defunding? That's why I asked the OP to explain his understanding of the word. No, - there has not been defunding of police. Its all political BS.

NOBODY DEFUNDED THE POLICE: A STUDY
https://therealnews.com/nobody-defunded-the-police-a-study
A study of budgets in over 400 American cities over the last 5 years shows that, despite persistent claims by politicians, pundits, and police unions, there was no mass defunding of police. Police departments got the same average cut of the city budget in 2021 as they did in previous years.

 

Wrong. A lot of people think defunding the police is a good idea. The Progressive Caucus in Congress is demanding it.