Why do many pro 2ndA just default between all guns v no guns

Apparently you haven't heard the news! America is no longer a colony of the UK, and we do things different here. We allow our citizens to own any firearm they want to, as long as it's legal, with the exception of fully automatic rifles manufactured after 1986. Which is itself a stupid restriction that will hopefully also be struck down by our Supreme Court before too much longer.

One of the reasons our founders insisted upon this, is that they had just lived through a war (and many of them did NOT live through it) for the sole purpose of enabling our Citizens to have the right of self-defense (along with many more), and ditching a monarchy for a representative republic, the first in modern history. Modern at the time, as others have followed our lead since then.

The thing with guns is they're all dangerous if used improperly, so parsing them to this 'kind' is allowed whereas 'this other' kind is not is just silly. They all put bullets out the end of their barrel at about the same speed based on barrel length, which translates to about 1,000 fps for a handgun and about 3,000 fps for a long gun.

You are probably reacting at least in part to the ridiculous and seemingly constant debate over whether or not to allow so-called 'assault weapons' to be owned by civilians. But it's a pointless debate, as the only difference between an 'assault weapon' and one that isn't is purely cosmetics... There is nothing an assault weapon can do that a 'non-assault' one cannot.

Like I said, they all put bullets downrange at the same speed, and a bullet coming out of a non-assault weapon is just as capable of killing and/or maiming as is one from a so-called 'assault weapon'. But to an untrained person, their similar looking appearance to actual fully automatic military weapons scares them (for no actual reason), so the debate continues ad nauseum.

In the meantime, the SCOTUS' decision in the Bruen case will make those laws illegal as soon as existing cases wind their way through the process, possibly including another trip to SCOTUS, where they'll ask if anyone was listening the last time they spoke on the topic.

But don't worry, we don't hold any grudges, and we actually consider the UK to be one of our strongest friends and allies, despite the fact that when we were young, we squabbled to the point that a shooting war broke out. That happens, even among actual human siblings.

 

I gave it. You omitted it. You also failed to provide an objective 'how much gun control is enough' stopping point. Since you wont address my question, Im not obligated to address yours and I assume you simply dont have a limit. If no amount of gun control is too much for you, why should we value your opinion on our resistance to any gun control at all?

We have folks that wanna ban pistols, others that wanna ban rifles. Should we ban both, or is one of them going too far? Some people think concealed weapons are more dangerous, others are more offended when the weapon is visible. Which ones should we cater to and which ones will have to figure out how to cope with reality?

 

The US is unique. Can YOU list any western nation where the CONSTITUTION... te basis of all law in the land, lists "bearing arms" as a natural right granted by the Creator? That is th STARTING POINT in America. That document is different than the basic laws in other countries. Other countries had kings/queens and never totally threw them out and started over as we did. America has no royalty. We NEVER saw our rights as flowing from royalty. We totally rejected that and started over completely. In America the people give power to the government... not vice versa.

Its not a matter of passing or failing a background check. Its the isue of having such a check. Imagine if you needed to pass a test to on a chair. That would be unacceptable too.

 

gun banners never say at what point they will say no more. As I noted in another post there are two kinds of gun restrictionists-those who want to punish lawful gun owners and those who actually believe that harassing honest people will impede criminals. Neither see the rights of lawful gun owners as superior to their goals so they will never stop

 

Still doesn't answer the thread.

Do you think any American can comprehend the discussion??

 

Again, that is fantastic, but I was wanting an answer to my thread. Do you think you could do that?

 

I'm not ranting about anything. I was wondering about what I asked in my op.

 

That is amazing, thanks for that.

Any chance you could answer my op?

 

Then you're looking in the wrong places.

Yeah, quite a few do. Biden rambles on about banning semi-automatic guns which is a huge percentage of all guns.

We fought to get away from UK silliness. Seriously, most states have a large set of rules on sales, handling and storage of guns, which most gun owners adhere to.

 

You gave me what?

Ok, you asked, "Which gun control law is 'going too far' in your opinion". What do you mean" you have a law or you don't have a law.

I was wondering why when someone says to American, "Gun Regulation", their brain hears it as, "Gun ban".

"Car Regulations", menas, "We use cars with regulations".

 

I don't bother with sliced up posts.

 

Talking about crashing airplanes, screaming alone at the sky and scaring animals is not a rant? Have another toke.

 

So when you say to an American, "Gun Regulation", why does their brain say, "Gun Ban"? That is the purpose of the thread.

We have car regulations, building regulations, food hygiene regulations etc.. and cars, buildings, and food aren't banned.

So if anyone can actually answer the thread question, is it just their opinion, or do they have evidence to a university study etc..

I don't consider this a rocket science question, so why is too difficult to answer??

 

Too bad. You might actually learn something.

 

If I wanted to keep re-reading my posts in sections, then I would take the effort to read yours. But because I already know what I wrote, I just ignore sliced up replies.

What I want to learn is, why does an American brain hear, "Gun Ban", when, "Gun Regulation", is said.

Does America lack dictionaries?

 

Said to the girlfriend, "They've gone quiet on guns". She replied, "Americans don't like being proved wrong". She hit the nail on the head.

 

List them?
There's hundreds if not thousands.
...
arm

3 of 5
noun (2)
often attributive
1
a : a means (such as a weapon) of offense or defense
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arm

 

I forgot a few other things of note. First, our police cannot just come and check anything in our homes unless they have probable cause to believe there is evidence of a crime to be found there, that is compelling enough to get a Judge to sign a warrant. Second, what good is a gun going to do to help me from a bad guy at 3AM? Am I supposed to ask him to give me a second to get my gun and ammo out of two different safes before I blow him away???

 

So you can't read sentences when they're spread out?

 

Sure. The answer is that all guns are legal. "Gun" being loosely defined as a tool that propels one or more rounds of ammunition downrange at speeds in between 1,000-3,000 fps, can be carried in your hand or on your body in some manner (like being in a holster on your belt, or on a sling over your back).

ALL of them. Even the scary looking ones. Don't like it, I don't care, stay the hell where you live and mind your own business. But the left these days can't even define what a 'woman' is, so the fact that you can't tell what a gun is does not surprise me at all.

 

No guns is the objective of the anti-gunners.

 

sure-when gun owners start allowing gun banners to implement their incremental schemes to ban guns, nothing good comes from that

 

Have you ever asked a gun banner how much gun control is enough? I have.

They said when there is no more gun deaths.

 

which can never be achieved. It reminds me of some advertising-such as Head and Shoulders-they say it controls up to 100% of all dandruff. That's far different than saying it eliminates 100% of dandruff but it sounds like that. Gun banners as I have shown have two main motivations. Neither one ends until all guns are banned.

 

As most of us know, they're too chicken-**** to admit it.