Why do NeoAtheists deny the practice of atheism is a religion?<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You've been offered proof. You've refused to address any of it. Let me know when you are ready for that to change.
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Not showing compression is not proof, its failure to prove, I addressed it and even gave you the math with a complete tutorial at a high school level proving time neither compresses nor expands, and the proof uses newtonian mathematics.

    Like I said in my first post on the matter its observer metaphysics, not physics. You took issue with it and failed to prove your point.

    Neoatheist religion is the same type of failure.
     
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    You gave me some videos that you refused to discuss. I gave you the math (which you dodged at every opportunity) and linked you to a physicist explaining it while offering to link you to more. If you still don't understand the math, let me know and I'll try to make it simpler . . . but all you really need to get the basics are the simple formulas I've already shared.

    Your position is based on blind faith contradicted by observation and math. You didn't like the conclusion, so you decided to mislabel math and observation "religion" to try to distract from your own purely faith-based claims.

    As a reminder of what you've failed to address:
    The speed of light is the same in all inertial frames of reference. Mathematically, this necessitates the relativity of time. The velocity of light is the same in all inertial frameworks, but the distance is different, therefore the time is different. Let me know when you are able to address this.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yes twice the time, you would make einee weenie proud! a car driving twice the distance at the same speed requires twice the time, wow! time changes!
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Very simple, your religion tells me what makes you tick. The Atheist Stalin had no checks and balances (morals) so murdering anyone who got in his way of power was standard operating procedure, like every atheist ruler before him.

    Atheist Dictionary

    Anthony Bradshaw
    by Austin Cline
    Updated June 25, 2019

    In principle, there is no difference and should be no difference between nontheism and atheism. Nontheism means not believing in any gods, which is the same as the broad definition of atheism. The prefixes "a-" and "non-" mean exactly the same thing: not, without, lacking. Each belief system agrees that there are no deities that created or control mankind. Essentially the belief is that man is on their own and will not be helped by a higher power. Many atheists and nontheists believe strongly in science and the scientific method.
    https://www.learnreligions.com/whats-the-difference-between-nontheism-and-atheism-247996
     
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  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Not too surprised that you are actually proud of the quantum neoatheist failures we have seen throughout this thread.
     
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    Has the Nobel committee called yet? I am humbled to be in the presence of the man who disproved all of physics.

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    You literally didn't comprehend a word of what you just quoted. Not a single one. I'll try clearing up your misconceptions further if I can convince myself you are willing to have a reasonable conversation about this and actually talk about the evidence instead of trolling. Now THAT would be faith.
     
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    Well, yes you do. You believe in the magical Nothing that made everything, not only devoid of "proof" which one only gets in pure mathematics, but it is utterly contrary to common sense and any hint of empirical evidence. But people believe what they want to and fit the facts to their desires.

    Read The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions, by David Berlinski, and learn.

    Watch A Matter of Gravity by John Lennox, and learn.
     
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    Why? You don't have the language, symbols, or logic to disprove the existence of God, and since you still insist such does not exist, I am not too concerned about your critique of my language skills.
     
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    Existence is infinite and eternal. Nothing magical at all. Just is. And the real "Devil's Delusion" are those who believe an omnipotent, omnipresent, supernatural force can rewrite the laws of existence and have a rabbit the size of a loaf of bread give birth to an elephant the size of a planet.

    But in a free country, even fools have a right to their delusions.
     
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  13. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I do not believe in any supernatural/magical "thing" you believe in that "is utterly contrary to common sense and (without) any hint of empirical evidence".
    I believe we do not know....so far.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    And you don't have the language, symbols, or logic to disprove the existence of unicorns, and since you still insist such does not exist.....
     
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    Fallacy of false equivalency, edna kawabata.
     
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    Not
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Stop projecting your failures onto me man. Bluff all you want, I gave you the full set of newtonian mathematical proofs in the tutorial proving that time does not compress or expand, if you do not comprehend it there is nothing more I can do for you. einee weenie gave us metaphysics
     
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    and they are in denial about it.
    interesting book, its a free pdf too
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    actually claiming atheist defies both logic and reason and flushes them both down the toilet.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    feel free to refute it if you are capable.

    @yardmeat:
    I did, I gave you Lorentz, the fact that you fail to comprehend its the same core equation group you give einee weenie credit for, proves to me you lack understanding of the subject and are not able to perform the necessary calculations even after given to you in a tutorial that requires simply 9th grade math to figger out.



    Maybe get someone to help you if you really want to understand it.

    Oh and here is your boy that can tell you I am right and you are wrong, hope that helps.



    How about that? He admits einee weinee uses Lorentz, just like I said, amazing?

    yardmeat cant lets see if you can :cool:
     
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    You may even get 2 Nobel prizes this year for disproving all of physics

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Good post! Nothing like proving beyond a shadow of a doubt you dont understand 8th grade (pre-high school) math.
     
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    Is that why you’re getting a Nobel prize? You used 8th grade math to disprove all of physics?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     

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