Why do white people vote democrat?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I think I've had a leftist call me a racist maaaaybe once or twice . . . definitely no more than I've had righties call me racist, not by a long shot.
     
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    I have literally been an active member of this party for 50 years. I listened to every single presidential candidate and nominee speak since Humphrey in 1968, and I read my own party's political platform every year since. Not once have I ever felt embarrassed to be white, or shamed, or belittled, or in any way treated as second class to anyone by my political party. If I heard some rhetoric that may have bordered on 'over the line' by people who's political agenda was left of center and who may happened to be members of my party, it was never something that was remotely commonplace, and never represented the views of my party.

    So I have absolutely no clue whatsoever what the OP is talking about. Ask if I was pissed at Bill Clinton who gave short shift to issues like income redistribution and poverty or his welfare reform and crime reform packages. Ask me how I felt about the Democratic party three times nominating a candidate who was in favor of capital punishment 'under some circumstances' Ask me about those 32 Democratic Senators voting for DADT. I have been pissed at my party before, but I have never been pissed at my party for anything like this.

    Democrats never offended my racial pride, or made me feel guilty because of white slave owners. I have never met a white Democrat who ever expressed anything like this. Mostly this is because Democrats understand what other Democrats are trying to convey when they discuss historic racism, and we know when someone outside our party is trying to create a wedge that otherwise would never exist.
     
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    progressives "we are not anti-white, bro"

    also progressives "be less white, bro"
     
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    Because they don't fall for those lies of the OP would be my guess.
    They don't see the world as binary.
    AFAIK, dems were not the group who tried to halt a legit democratic election process.
    Basically, the R's right now are acting like thugs.
     
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    I am white, I don't see that.
    But then, I don't watch fake tv.
     
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    I will vote the party out of power. Unless there's a party with a 2x impeached lying loser pretending to be the leader of a party.
     
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    There are loons everywhere. Pat Robertson has millions convinced that the gays cause hurricanes, or something.

    Do most republicans believe this or are they the relatives that pee on the floor at family events?
    This whole “white man bad,” is a pat Robertson like following. Nobody on the left I know is ashamed of being white.
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Been around a lot of progressives over the decades. Never been told to 'be less white' They never commented one way or the other on my 'whiteness'
     
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    Nice speech. The current democrat party is not the party of Kennedy or Humphrey. Half the democrat party were real liberals. today not even 10% are real liberals. Even the ACLU are not liberals any longer.

    The post Obama race obsession makes the party impossible for any normal white person to support.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    What did I say that was a lie?
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    I think I am as qualified to know what a 'real' liberal is as anyone on this forum. I really don't need any help from you. While there may be some differences in the issues, and the jargon surrounding the conversation about racism, and some newer theories on how we go about resolving the problems racism causes, there is no discernable difference between the amount of attention racism received post or pre Obama. If I had to guess, I'd guess it was actually less because we now have a few more issues that divide our attention from racism than there was in the 60's. There was almost no passion behind international terrorism, privacy rights, social media, climate change, or LBGTQ rights taking their share of our time and energy.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    So posters want to pretend that war has not been declared against white Americans? Really?

    Keep in mind when you watch these videos that democrats call any speech they disagree with terrorism.

    "White men are the biggest threat to the USA." CNN


    "White supremacy biggest terrorist threat. "Joe Biden


    "White Supremacy Is Biggest Domestic Terrorism Concern"..Nancy Pelosi
    She also lies that white people are the ones attacking Asians.



    White supremacy is ‘most lethal threat to the homeland today,’ Biden says


    "White Supremacy the Most Persistent and Lethal Terror Threat"



    Kyle Rittenhouse was called a white supremacist.

    What about the attack on parents by our justice dept?.
    https://youtu.be/Ahqac8i0QpI

    White terrorism. White supremacy. White privilege.
    White White White White White White White White White White
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    What about civil liberties? Civil liberties! Your party's attempt to destroy them at every possible level? The press secy of a democrat president calling on Spotify to censor Joe Rogan?

    You have a Canadian PM declaring marshal law. No dem will condemn him.

    Hillary Clinton used private and government sources to spy on Donald Trump. Again nothing. That is not liberal!

    BLM, a whole summer of rioting to help Joe Biden's candidacy. No problem pay their bail they are victims!

    The democrat party take sides with violent criminals in 1968?
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    In the mid 1960s 84% of our country was white non Hispanic. No way democrats would be saying idiot radical things like this. It would be political suicide.

    Just because whites are now 61% of the population does not make that acceptable Whatever motives you have to be a democrat. Self hate, paternalism. You want to protect those inferior little brown people? Whatever those motives I'm not impressed.
     
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    This post is so ludicrous I could go through it line by line, but you aren't worth the trouble. The last line is a hoot. Maybe you need to learn about 1968, about the Vietnam war, and about what people like Spiro Agnew, J. Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon used to say about the Democratic Party and its 'support' of the anti war movement and its protests.

    You know absolutely nothing about the Democratic party then or now. If there is a historical figure from that Era that most reminds of Hubert Humphrey, trying to walk that fine line supporting the rights of protesters and dissenters in BLM but condemning lawlessness and riots is probably Joe Biden. We could compare the quotes side by side and alter the labels. You really do need to pick topics you actually can speak about without embarrassing yourself.
     
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    I did not say anything about anti war. Can't you read?

    Democrats today ARE taking sides with violent criminals over crime victims. In 1968 crime was a major campaign issue. It is all about racial justice! Stop lying. the nfl paid for this ad. Black criminals are being called victims.



    If you do not realize that dems are assaulting civil liberties than you are asleep.
     
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    I know what you typed. Somehow you decided that Democrats were not being knocked as pro riots back in 1968. It was a lie. Guess what? both Nixon and Wallace used to say about the Democratic party and crime in the late 60's and early 70's? What do you know, Dems have been being blamed as soft on crime for for 60 years, literally every single election cycle. I can post the quotes right on through. None of this has changed.

    Same songs, different singers (only because the old chorus has all died out twice over)
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    It's not the same! Democrats being blamed is not the same.

    Democrats in 1968 would not have dared to talk about perps as victims. Or to say that black men in prison are victims. Or to say that bail is racist.

    https://republicbroadcasting.org/ne...eorge-soros-causing-murder-and-crime-to-soar/

    https://www.papermag.com/cash-bail-systematic-racism-2646133756.html
     
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    It is far worse now and you damn well know it.
     
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    Except we were blamed for being too sympathetic to blacks accused of crimes, or being incarcerated. Matter of fact we were smart enough to realize that many black men were being imprisoned as victims. In the sixies and early 70's it was crackdowns on civil rights protests. In the 80's and 90's it was under disproportionate sentencing of drug related crimes. Its not like we just discovered systemic racism this century. We always knew it was out there under different labels.

    None of this is new to Dems. We have heard this over and over and over and over. You are not particularly creative in your line of attack, Starcastle and you are still failing your history.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    The democrat voters agree with me! If they did not know they have a problem with white voters why was Biden the nominee?

    You know why. Why were some democrats excited about Bloomberg?
     
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    No, I know you are worse, more shrill, more partisan and more determined than ever, but these are the same labels you have always thrown at us, expecting to stick. You are no different from J Edgar Hoover ,except you aren't labeling every young black man as a Black Panther or Crip gang-banger and Dems as their apologists. Instead now they are all BLM and Antifa members and the Democratic party is now their apologists instead.
     
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    I do not need to be creative I'm right. Democrats were bashed for being against the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty.

    That is nothing like what is going on today. The party has gone on a full court press to always portray blacks as victims and whites as the oppressors.

    I do not remember any democrat candidates calling white people privileged until now. Did Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton do that? No damn way.

    Of course the dem party is more aligned with the mega rich and multi trillion dollar corporations than ever also. That is for another thread. The democrat party is about as much a force for good in the world as the Catholic church.
     
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    No we don't.
     
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    You are just a typical hyperpartisan bashing the Democratic party, just the same way, we have been being bashed since FDR. Nothing new here. We are used to it. Hubert Humphrey and Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton got the same attacks. I am quoting my own post. "While there may be some differences in the issues, and the jargon surrounding the conversation about racism, and some newer theories on how we go about resolving the problems racism causes, there is no discernable difference between the amount of attention racism received post or pre Obama."

    Now you do some reading on 'White Privilege' and you might just learn something. https://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1051&context=history_theses
     
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