Why does Ron Paul, Republicans, hate EPA?

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  1. DontLoseTouch

    DontLoseTouch New Member

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    Right so when the company in question hands you 10 million dollars to shut up and let it happen, you're going to do what? Be the noble type?


    Before you answer, consider how your fellow man, an average working class American would answer.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Why would they pay you 10 mil?
     
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    The same reason they pay anybody whose land they destroy, to keep them from filing civil suit or garnering public support for having them shut down. 10 million was just a random figure. Make it a million, or 100,000, or 10,000 for all I care. The point is, the average person is not going to turn down free money in the interest of the environment, which is EXACTLY why there needs to be a neutral 3rd party regulating the environmental outputs of these companies.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Well I don't see the problem. It's my property, and if the company offers to compensate me for the damage it's doing to my property and I accept whats the problem?
     
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    DontLoseTouch New Member

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    Because if everybody takes that stance, we don't have a planet anymore, and sorry but we all have to live here.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Hmm, what kind of damage are you talking about? If a company wants to pay me to spew nuclear or chemical waste on my property I would say no..
     
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    Does it matter? It could be anything from excessive noise to outright dumping of hazardous materials, the point is that a majority of people will choose money over protecting the land and that is unacceptable.

    Companies will always place profit first on the list of priorities, it's only natural, that's business. But business shouldn't be given free reign to devastate our ecosystem.
     
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    That quote answered your question.
     
  9. Lady Luna

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    You are right; they shouldn't. Eliminating the EPA doesn't mean that corporations will be able to do whatever they want. There are laws that must be followed, and the EPA isn't needed to enforce them. It is another humongous, centralized bureaucracy that we can do without. Addressing issues on the local level can be done a lot more cheaply, and without the bureaucratic nonsense of a federal agency far removed from the activity taking place.
     
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    So, if the EPA is not there to enforce the law who is?
    The reality is that the EPA mostly leaves it to the state and local agencies to enforce environmental protections. It is only when state and local agencies fail to enforce the law that the EPA takes action, like in Texas where the state has been particularly lax due to the political influence of polluters and so the EPA is in the process of taking over the regulation of some polluters.

    A very large majority of people in the US want clean air and clean water and support the EPA. getting rid of the EPA will provoke a huge backlash.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    doesn't every State already have an EPA , I know Maine does!
     
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    I like Ron Paul a lot, but this is one of the few issues he is just dead wrong about. The free market doesn't care about our environment.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats great. They can sue the polluters at their own expense after their kids are born with a double set of ears or four legs. Ron Paul is definitley showing his age with this ridiculous position on the EPA.
     

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