Wow what is not common sense about law abiding citizens using lawfully purchased weapons to defend their lives or those around them. Your expectations sound immature and selfish since you are imposing the your belief system on those millions of gun owners who never use a weapon illegally, way to stereotype eh. Your true colors are plainly on display here eh? To the truly informed...guns are not toys, 30 round magazines have every business being in the hands of the millions of law abiding citizens who use them lawfully, and being on the streets is exactly what we need, despite your emotional rant to the contrary. Psst those immature idiots you speak of actually want the current laws regarding background checks to work.....it just would be much better if we enforced the laws we already have before passing more ineffectual tripe that is just designed to make you antis feel better. It's called common sense and it trumps emotional baggage. One who actually applies facts to a given situation and doesn't use tragedies as an excuse to promote a political diatribe. LOL your gun nut percentages seem to be blurred by your ideologies and it shows. Let's see if 90 percent of Americans push their congressman or senator to vote for expanded background checks. Better quit reading the daily KOS eh? Really you swallow that much Kool-Aid....hmmm If you were to study the facts you would see lots of information that dispels your KOS saturated information....including information from your nanny state gubberment about the effectiveness of background checks. Yours is truly an emotion filled trivial rant that has no bearing on the solutions to the current debate. You want solutions....then look to history, it's all you need to understand.
Please define "better background checks" You are selfish because you don't understand intelligent debate and you seek to punish law abiding citizens for your misguided feel good fantasies. Even those who would vote for expanded background checks acknowledge it wouldn't have stopped an adam lanza and just as an added bonus, just for you. It doesn't take a 30 round magazine to be able to fire 30 rounds in the streets in "seconds" In a matter of "seconds" a pistol with 10 round magazines could fire 30 rounds. In a matter of "seconds" a person can fire 10 00buck shotgun shells with each shell carrying 9 lead pellets for a total of 90 rounds going down range. It's obvious you don't have a clue about firearms and how they work and it's obvious you don't understand how applying laws on top of laws don't actually work. Most of your kind get laws passed and walk away from them thinking you really did something....until the next nutjob comes along. Then your type goes back to the drawing board with a whole new plan on how to fix the "problem" Why don't you just admit that you won't be satisfied until there are no more weapons on earth...eh?
I swallowed just enough kool-Aid to know the NRA and the gun nuts are going to take things too far. They are not my government. Nor will they be anyone else's. These people are totally insane to do what they did here; http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/04/03/opinion/doc515c356c32cbd342768915.txt?viewmode=default
This is what you rely on to make an intelligent discussion regarding expanded background checks, this is your intelligent response to my request for information as to how your proposal will reduce or eliminate criminal activity with firearms. This is what you rely on to answer my question of what you really stand for. I think I'm correct in my assumptions that you rely on emotion and hatred of an organization and misinformation from antigun websites and not so much on facts....eh!
I think I'm correct in my assumptions that you rely on emotion and hatred of an organization and misinformation from antigun websites and not so much on facts....eh!
The reports from the FBI are ant-gun and full of misinformation? It's funny, I never saw anything they said that was ant-gun. The more you spit the more you drool. But keep going! As long as I have something to put on the table and you don't, your correct assumptions are going to start looking, not so correct.
There's always different web sites "with facts", produced especially for those who are accustomed to ignoring facts. Who are the ones just plain scared to produce any of their own, pending getting struck down by the Pinnochio fact checkers, "eh"? http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...un-Background-Checks-Effective-191654061.html
LOL you should do some research eh? according to your story we have 56 (rounded up) felons per month denied a purchase which is what the current laws are suppose to do out of how many checks? Your story conveniently left out that total and it's still not FBI reports eh. You like stories that actually support current laws that work? Could you please please tell me what enhanced background checks you support that would work better? You know so we can better understand your supposed logic?
My view, which I'm sure many will agree; I hear often about how the media and/or the president will say that more regulations of "Assault Weapons" will further more reduce the amount of "gun deaths" per year. He says again that this is what the people want, and throw some biased percentage statistic that is completely out of context and a lie. To prove this point, he will say this: " Reduce Gun deaths per year. ". What I then ask is; In the gun deaths per year-- what are the total amount of armed conflicts per year? what are the outcomes of those crimes? what is the percentage of innocent lives saved by the innocent able to save themselves when the situation is a life or death situation-- even great bodily harm to yourself or your children. The statistics are skewed by TOTAL number of good SELF DEFENSE instances AND CRIMINALS using guns combined. Do the research on google all the facts are there. My children and my wife are the reason I live every day and I would do anything to protect them. As I am sure Obama feels the same way about his children, as we have seen him have fully armed security anywhere they go. I do believe, that since he is able to do this, so am I. I do not need to spend millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay for my childrens armed body guard. My ATI 1911 Titan LW and I are my children's armed body guard. Oh look, I think I just thought of a way to cut millions of tax dollars spent: Have Barrack and Michelle Obama apply for concealed carry permits and they could then protect themselves and their children. When their children turn of age, get them permits as well. I wouldn't mind spending a little tax money for them to protect themselves, I mean he is the ... "President". I think Michelle could probably handle a smaller .38 special. I wouldn't mind even spending the extra few for Mr. Obama to carry the XDS. If we eliminated what we are spending in security for his entire family and went to what is suggested above, we went from ... well the number are explained by Beck on this page, to under how ever much it costs to obtain the permit, the purchase of the handguns, back ground checks and what ever else, and BAM, you have saved MILLIONS. That is what really 'chaps my ass' , why make it tougher for ME, who has never seen an overnight in jail, never been in trouble for anything other then a seat belt ticket, to be able to arm myself to not only protect my family, but to protect myself as well. You can YouTube videos of criminals getting interviewed saying that they LOVE the strict gun laws, because they know that their victims are more then likely not going to be armed and able to fight back or stop them. Keep in mind as well these criminals are a lot of the time in prison or jail for violent crimes. Even in the music industry there are many rappers who are known felons that more or less brag about carrying guns and shooting people despite the gun laws. The most recent song I have heard was Lil Wayne, who in his own lyrics say " F*ck a gun law " among other things openly saying he carries a weapon even though he is a felon. I am not trying to single out one particular rapper -- they all brag about these things. GRANTED, I listen to rap music and that is my genre of choice, but after listening to the lyrics of majority of the artists they all talk about violating gun laws even though they are felons and have been to prison it makes my point. And the point: Criminals do not follow laws. They are criminals because they have broken the LAW. Why should I be screwed over and left vulnerable for my family to be attacked. When you have people that go in to movie theatres, (which mind you, the shooter of that massacre drove 20 miles from his home town to specifically target a theater that he knew had No Gun Signs posted), mad men that steal weapons and go into schools and shoot innocent children and people. I am horrified by what happened, but what people are misunderstanding that it was not the so called "Assault Rifle" that killed those children. It was the man behind the rifle. It was the man behind the handgun. The weapon is an object that can only be operated by a person. I have heard this term Assault Rifle on many news channels and I cannot stand it, because there is no such thing as an Assault Rifle. RIFLES CANNOT ASSAULT.... That is a whole 'nother conversation. I am slowly seeing states that are legalizing arming staff in schools. I believe this is best thing that could happen, allow them. Post signs on every entrance saying that "This property is protected by ARMED PERSONNEL", lets think about this, its a very interesting thing to contemplate. My uncle once said to me, " Do you ever see mass shootings in Police Stations? Do you ever see mass shootings at Sportsman's Clubs?" The answer is obviously; No, you do not. To put it frankly, if the criminal knows that there is someone protecting this school, they will definitely think twice about doing horrific acts. God for bid they still manage to penetrate a school, there will at least be a significantly higher chance for survivors if a principle and/or other staff is armed. When you have people that commit these horrific acts.... You better believe and realize you could be anywhere, anytime, and this happens. It's not just schools. It's Restaurants, Salons, Grocery Stores, Gas stations, ... etc. All the biggest cities in the United States have extremely tight gun laws and virtually no one can possess a firearm. Hard to even own them in the cities, like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, etc. If you look on Wiki for crime rate statistics, you will see that the cities that have strict to no gun rights are the highest crime rated cities in the United States. It is just crazy to think that making it harder for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS to get guns to protect themselves, will help prevent CRIMINALS from obtaining and using guns in crimes. I also hear the argument "Why does a person need to own a military style rifle?". There is a simple answer to that. The following link is to the Second Amendment (Don't worry not spam, it is to wiki) In simple terms, it gives us the right to own such a rifle to defend the people of this country from a tyrannical government, that does not do the will of the people. All an AR-15 military style rifle is, is the modern day musket. Do you think if a revolution were to break out that the DHS Police Force would have fully automatic rifles and machine guns? ANSWER: AB-SO-FRICKEN-LUTELY. We are lucky enough to get a semi-automatic machine gun as civilians. Unless you're a Class 3, which is a nightmare in its own to obtain. Not to mention even if being a class 3 license, you're paying 15K + to purchase the fully automatic post sample rifle anyway. The founding fathers added " Shall not be infringed. " to protect the people of our free country from the government taking this right away from us as American Citizens. I just wish that people would open their eyes when it comes to these things. I don't know about you, but my family mean everything to me, and my freedom mean everything to me. No one will take my freedoms from me. No one will stop me from protecting my families lives at all costs. More to come later....
I am confused to whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. If you want to give an argument to what I said, please counter me. On my blog post is the same post that I posted on this thread.
