If this was the early 20th century when the KKK was the politically correct supremacist hate movement I'd be debating the KKK then the way I do Feminists now. I also debate Men's Rights Activists when their arguments don't have merit and proudly I can say I've been banned from both Men's Rights sites as well as Feminist sites. The difference between Men's Rights Activists and Feminists though is for the most part Men's Rights Activists have evidence to support their claims, whereas for the most part Feminists promote ideas in the complete absence of evidence, or even in the presence of conradictory evidence and sometimes they manufacture evidence, like Feminists at the Nordict Gender Research institute who manufactured bogus science to support their claim that gender is nothing more than a social construct. Feminists like to create their own versions of science like the Nazis created their own versions of science. Feminists make claims like we all start out as female and females become males because of the presence of testosterone in the womb. Therefore males are mutants. However, pick up a biology book and you'll learn what makes one male is the inheritance of a Y-chromosome from one of their fathers haploid gametes (a sperm cell containing 23 chromosomes) and what makes one female is the inheritance of an X chromosome from one of their fathers haploid gametes and an X chromosome from one of their mothers haploid gametes which forms the first diploid cell the zygote and NOTHING changes an X chromosome in the zygote into a Y chromosome, NOTHING, not testosterone, not ANYTHING. I also like winning and as long as the moderation isn't biased, I've never lost a debate with a feminist but it's easy to win a debate when your beliefs are supported by evidence and the oppositions beliefs are not only not supported by evidence they're proven false by contradictory evidence, such as the wage gap, for instance.
I have a feminist who's a moderator on another forum who's defending someone who believes it's OK for men to rape their wives she's so threatened by egalitarianism lol
The rest of us just harden our fists, polish our guns and boots. There's only one way to win a debate against a cultural Marxist.
Somewhat true...when the oppositions beliefs aren't supported by evidence and your beliefs are, it isn't much of a debate but I don't have an issue with women. I have an issue with feminists and not all feminists are women and not all women are feminists. ...and people who call egalitarians misogynists are either too stupid to get the egalitarian arguments and/or they're sexist and racist and usually they're all three of those things, too stupid, sexist and racist.
Feminists speak for women the same way the KKK speaks for white people. The only people feminists care about are feminists. Feminists don't care about women. I just had a feminist at debatepolitics named Gina delete a thread I created in response to a man who believes it's OK to rape your wife titled , "Rape is wrong. It's always wrong, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not." If feminists care about women, then why would a feminist delete a thread defending the rights of women??? . The reason, Gina, a feminist, deleated the thread is because she is so threatened by egalitarianism defending the rights of women and therefore not fitting the feminist narrative that anyone criticizing feminism is a mysoginist that she deleted a thread defending the rights of women because feminist don't care about women. Feminists only care about feminists. Feminists don't care about women. Feminists only care about feminists, period. The same way the KKK doesn't care about white people. The only people the KKK care about are the KKK, period.
Why do liberals always want to make people who are obviously different the same? Men and women are obviously different and more apt to different tasks. To say that men are better at raising children than women or that women are better at hard physical labour than men is simply wrong. Sure, you can make a case for it, and switch traditional roles, but if you look at primates and most human societies, women are usually charged with raising children for a reason. It is my belief, and it should be yours too, that women, who are simply better at doing certain tasks than men, should be confined to those tasks, solely because they do it better, and vice versa. The problem with feminism is that rather than support equal treatment, it supports more equal attitude, which is just BS. yes, there are no differences between men and women as far as individual worth, both have the same level of superiority, but feminists dont care about that, they just want to forcibly take women from the home and thrust them into the workforce. They do the same thing with minorities in the work force, they thrust underqualified people in just to say that they are there, which is wrong. It doesn't mean that women or minorities are inferior, only that, in most cases, they aren't qualified to be thrust into jobs and are more than likely better at doing something else, which is where they belong.
How about we let both men AND women decide what tasks they'll be "confined" to and stop trying to put people in the boxes. Life is not the neat little package you'd like it to be, and we shouldn't try to make it so.
As an egalitarian, I believe opportunities should be based on merit and race and gender shouldn't matter. If I owned a bar, and I was hiring a bouncer and my choices were an out of shape Man or Rhonda Rousey, I'd hire Rhonda Rousey over the man. As an egalitarian, I don't believe race and gender should be disqualifications or qualifications for opportunities.
See, I understand where youre coming from in that you can surely train a women to do a man's job, and she very well may be better than a specific case person at that task, but you cant argue that an equally trained man will be a worse bouncer than an equally trained women. This is just an inefficiency with our society. We tend to give men all of the jobs over a women, but in actuality, women do better at certain jobs than men, so it would make sense to confine woken to certain jobs and men to the ones they are more aptly suited for. It's not so much unequal treatment but more stratification for the common good.
Back in the day I did some security work at a strip club and I advocated hiring some female bouncers. This club had a decent group of gay men doing the job but I wanted a woman working the door. The primary reason being that a woman, in particular an attractive one could do a MUCH better pat down that would be accepted by the customers.
I debated nationalists on Russian language forums. I am Jewish. I would say American Leftists, Feminists, and SJWs have much much less tolerance for opposition, even then nationalists.
But how do you achieve merit without considering race and gender? Or, even more importantly, social class? We would all choose Rousey because she is elite. But we don't often discover merit among those whom are marginalized. Achievements among the lower class are widely unrecognized because they don't have a voice or a chance to prove their merit. It is not a question of whether they posses merit but, rather, getting recognized for having it. I see you compared Rhonda Rousey to an "out of shape man". Well then your decision is not based on equal merits. You are not choosing Rousey regardless of her gender, you're choosing her because you disqualified the man. The question should be: If you had an equally strong male and rhonda rousey than who would you choose to hire as your bouncer? Then, you can base your choice solely on merit.
The actual difference when you are honest with yourself and think for a moment is far less complex. You Are Male. It may also be at matter of anger at females for reasons that revolve around a lack of access to something only they can provide that can severely damage a mans ego.
In my opinion both MRA's and Feminist are equally whacko and equally laughable movements. For the previous I would say they only exist in America and even there are not taken seriously by anyone. Feminism is quite strong over here, where I am. Yet I am not a very big fan of it all and therefore do not even care to bother. I used get very angry when Feminists made falseful or just plain stupid statements. Today I do not even care anymore. Stupidity is emblematic for third wave Feminism and most people realize the movement is destructive. What I do find more annoying than Feminism itself however, is men who b-tch about it day in and day out. (*)(*)(*)(*)! Not saying you are not allowed to debate them, but I see a lot of men who are even worse than Feminist themsleves when it comes to crying over meaningless bollox. Just stop giving a flying horse. Feminism is just a trend and will eventually die out.
The leaders of corporations often boast about how minorities and women are highly represented in their system, but after personal experiance with Coca - Cola, the CEO's can say this because they are hiring minorities on purpose simply to put them in those positions, which often means that the people are underqualified or are not apt for the job. It would be better to have them equally represented, not put there simply because they were a minority.
