Why I should be President

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by oldjar07, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. peoplevsmedia

    peoplevsmedia Banned

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    Makes perfect sense to me, all of it.
     
  2. tblount

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    Well politics is definitely complex. NO country has been able to perfect a government in the history of mankind. It is extremely difficult to balance international and domestic issues. Environment vs economics. You just have not though and researched major issues seriously enough. Have you actually listened to any of the debates? Even among the candidates of the SAME party they have valid opposing views.

    Just try this.... offer a simple solution for a complex issue like small government that ignores needs of the citizen VS large government that seeks to take care of everyone by heavily taxing. Then sit back and see how many people agree with your position.

    If you resolve that issue then break down the issue of abortion vs woman's rights and see how simple your position is for everyone to agree on.

    Eventually you will decide that anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot and the only solution is for you to become a dictator.

    Having said all that, I'm impressed that you took an interest in politics and put your ideas out there. Your main critics won't do that. but I will...


    If I were President... http://perfectflyer.com/president.php
     
  3. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    Does that investment come at the end of a gun?
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  4. IndridCold

    IndridCold Banned

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    Not for me. I am willing to make compromises and the like, in order to obtain a fair extent of what policies make sense to me, or at least, my fair share of influence in what policies become enacted (democracy).
     
  5. IndridCold

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    We have to make sure no one individual has very much power.
     
  6. tblount

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    I'm too fat and it's too cold. I'll keep my car.

    YES... only if they are hot babes that like to run around nude.... even then, they better keep their hands off my toothpaste!

    There is no glory in being skinny in the richest nation in the world... we have an image to maintain!

    Not yet... keep trying.
     
  7. Trinnity

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    I like nuclear energy and we need more of it.
    Wasteful spending. Oh hell yeah.

    You really struck a nerve there. Foreign aid, Ethanol.....corn is too valuable for a food source to be wasted on fuel.

    Stop the interventionist wars and get the troops out in a reasonable time. Can't just pull them out with nothing to keep the Taliban from picking right back up. That is a waste of time, money, and lives.

    I don't want to see ANY tax increases. It's like giving heroin to a junky.

    The bullet tech sounds very interesting.

    Education: Back to state control entirely. No more fed involvement. The following subjects are so important and I would like to see more of them:
    Math, history, science, economics, government, shop, foreign language, even home ec., PENMANSHIP, and computers of course.
    The kids need to learn practical things like balancing a checkbook and changing the oil in their car.

    Now about the taking over the world part. Nope. That's nuts. And I don't like the whole globalism thing.

    I have no problems with political parties and I think they're necessary.
     
  8. oldjar07

    oldjar07 Active Member

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    No, not really. Cars are more efficient than bicycles in certain areas. I think not enough physical activity is more of a problem than caloric intake.
     
  9. IndridCold

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    So what you want is to make an unsustainable NATION OF WASTE which uses resources so quickly that it destroys itself soon after?

    I'm not saying that you should be forced to conform to any standards of efficiency, just that people OUGHT to be benevolent, and wise, enough to do so.

    Lastly, this is not an "efficiency vs. luxury" thing at all. With creativity, efficiency can make things more luxurious.

    It's merely an efficiency vs. INefficiency thing. That is all it is.
     
  10. IndridCold

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    So you'd rather buy a $20,000 car, and pay $200-300 a MONTH for it, as well as regular very costly maintenance, and pay perhaps HUNDREDS in gas a month for it..

    ...than pay $150 for a bicycle, go to places that are generally near where you live, and as far as places that are more far away, rely on public transportation?

    Why limit ourselves to bicycles at all? There should be body-powered vehicles that perhaps use small, highly efficient, uncostly motors or even engines, that can move at say 40-50 mph, that have protection and coverings against wind, rain etc. Perhaps a 4-wheeled machine that uses body/leg power as well as a small motor, and weighs maybe 200-300 pounds if not less.

    It's all about CREATIVITY FOR EFFICIENCY. With enough of it, these woes we have about unsustainability will perish.

    If only people were not so thick headed than to realize it. If fuc*ing only.
     
  11. oldjar07

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    I don't care about the abortion issue. It doesn't matter how "large" or "small" a government is. It matters where that money is going. It should go to things like science and technology that will eventually makes cost of living go down. I'm pretty good at determining what spending is wasteful and what is not, so if I was a leader of the country, I'd like a large government. Most people don't really know what to do with their money, so I don't like small governments. It depends on who the leaders of a country are.
     
  12. IndridCold

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    No offense, but you have zero idea what you're talking about on this one. I will have to perhaps make a thread about this with more detailed facts from reliable sources (maybe use FactChecker to help me), but I do know that:

    1. corn is NOT very "valuable" at all for a human food source (it provides little nutrition and it's products are merely high in calories); beans, rice etc. are FAR more effective as a human food source, and

    2. if we actually made far smaller, lighter, efficient vehicles, we'd be able to afford having a lot of our fuel being in the form of ethanol alcohol, which is by the way FAR more efficient than gasoline. FAR less costly!!
     
  13. IndridCold

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    No one on Earth is intelligent enough to calculate these things, which require many details and assumptions and models, well enough to satisfy the claims that you propagate here.
     
  14. oldjar07

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    I read your link and I agreed with most of what you said. However, I think you put too much emphasis on some things, and mentioned very little to nothing about some very important areas.
     
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    If you disagree with nearly all of the people almost all of the time, it's hard to like democracy. This is the situation I am in.
     
  16. IndridCold

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    Why would you mind them using your toothpaste? I'd let 'em use all kinds of my things
     
  17. Daybreaker

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    One reason (presumably among many) that you won't be president:

    I don't think there will be an "O.J. Administration" for at least another century.

    Too soon?
     
  18. IndridCold

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    Yeah, kindof like when most people want to live beyond what their means truly are and live an UNSUSTAINABLE resource-inefficient, resource-overusing lifestyle, and no one can stop them.

    That's gotta end
     
  19. tblount

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    Perhaps you may want to consider getting organized first then bringing your best work to the experts? The way you introduce it tends to indicate you don't care enough to do it right. ...so why should we care enough to read it?

    Maybe? But even if the economy was perfect, money can't buy me love... and there is more to life than money. Some people with tons of money still are unhappy. They divorce, medicate themselves and even commit suicide. Science and technology doesn't solve spiritually and morally bankrupt societies. In fact, many argue (and I agree) with a speech Eisenhower made in 1941 as he referenced a "wise philosopher"

    I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers - and it was not there . . . in her fertile fields and boundless forests and it was not there . . . in her rich mines and her vast world commerce - and it was not there . . . in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution - and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.


    Well find them... build a better mouse trap and the world will beat a path to your door. It's not as easy as you think or everyone would be doing it.

    I agree and so do a lot of people... but it's not happening... at least not in the USA .. yet.

    Yes... but if you were making tents for soldiers and a guy like you came along and said war is wasteful... would you agree then go out of business?
     
  20. oldjar07

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    I live 10 miles from the nearest town. Are these things your suggesting going to have roofs and windshields? Most personal vehicles don't, and I wouldn't want to be driving in that in the middle of the winter. What about passengers and luggage? Public transportation isn't going to work for a lot of people. I do support building very high speed maglev trains though. Who would want to pedal their vehicle all the way to their destination, especially if their destination was a couple hours away?
     
  21. IndridCold

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    Well, economic ideas are ONLY meant to solve..economic problems!! Whaddya know!!

    Therefore saying "but these other problems with people still exist" is irrelevant and not a counterargument to anything.
     
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    I don't think it matters if state or federal government controls education as long as the money is going to the right places. Penmanship and foreign language are worthless classes in my opinion. Otherwise, it looks like we agree on most things.
     
  23. tblount

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    Not really... I would rather use foreign oil... foreign goods and services.... I like it when a gal from India takes my order. Use THEIR resources... that's the American way!

    Actually I find that post so hilarious because I'm so conservative that I sometimes reuse paper plates. I just wanted to "represent" the general mindset of our society.
     
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    If we invested in electric cars that get their electricity from nuclear power, we would have plenty of resources for thousands of years at least.
     
  25. IndridCold

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    10 miles is not too far to bicycle, let alone some vehicle that's not 3,000 pounds and uses a gas hogging engine yet still can get you places with ease on your part.

    Um, obviously? I mentioned that they would shield you from wind, rain etc. They'd have to have roofs and windshields.

    My overall point is that there is always SOMETHING that is way more efficient than what we have now.

    Well da*n, it's 'bout the only option we're gonna fuc*ing HAVE once everyone becomes so poor due to this UNSUSTAINABLE NATION OF WASTE that we're trying to keep running, that we can only afford 5 chickens (for regular egg laying) and a few big barrels of rice per year to feed a family of 4.
     

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