Why is Israel so small

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  1. Doc Dred

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    i posted this in another thread…and it got me to thinking..
    Why isn;t Israel bigger?
    Why did Britain give so much to the the other race of Abraham?

    I mean wow 6 million were killed off , the Romans killed so many off, the pogroms killed off so many and so on.

    They have been constantly reduced in numbers that the other Abrahamic race hasn't .

    so don't cry that they are less in number.

    They should have a larger piece of land…this sliver is a slap in the face.

    the West Bank and Gaza should all be theirs as well as Lebanon..

    This area is theirs since time was recorded…they ruled it under Roman occupation..
     
  2. Margot2

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    You may be unaware that Israel never ruled.. Most of their history thy were ruled by others including Egypt.

    You might also not realize that Lebanon, Syria and Palestine was home to native peoples for 10,000 years or more.

    Samaria was inhabited by Arabs since 700 BC...

    They didn't immigrate from Europe or Russia or the Ukraine.

    The problems Israel faces are because they have NO respect for the rights of others.

    To eliminate the Arabs from the region would require their extermination.. also the lines of Hitler's Final Solution.
     
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    Using the old, we were promised this land by god crap, they have been working at chiseling all the land they can get their hands on by deception. terrorism, and brute force or for over 50 years. Haven't you noticed?

    BTW: Those who invaded the area after WW II are almost all blood thirsty eastern European ex-Bolsheviks who have nothing to do with the region.
     
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    Israel is small because that's the land that they won in the 1948 war.
     
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    Correct the Jews were never slaves in Israel nor did they build the pyramids as slave labor.. But, Egypt controlled the Sina and Canaan.. at least as late as king Omri.

    Where did you come up with Jews were an African tribe?

    They were Canaanites.
     
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    you want Israel to conquer Lebanon?

    lol!!!!
     
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    think there are good correlation for the destructions of the cities, and also for egypt, but there is an huge problem: if the exodus really occurred in 1500-1450 BC, the Israelites were present in Palestine between 1400 and 1200. But there are a lot of evidences proving that the Egyptians ruled the whole territory during this period of the time, and all the kings of Canaan (who were numerous and divided as it is reported in the Bible) were in fact nothing more than Egyptians vassals with a few autonomy.

    You are quite correct that the Egyptians had political control of Canaan in 1400 BC and they maintained that control by means of suzerainty treaties with the kings of the local city states. The reality of the situation, however, was that the Egyptians had very few troops and other personnel in Canaan.

    They had several administrative centers in the lowlands, such as Gaza, Joppa, Megiddo and Beth Shan, but did not maintain a similar presence in the highlands. It was in the highlands that the Israelites settled, in the area that is often referred to as the central hill country. The areas that the Israelites could not conquer, listed in both Joshua and Judges 1, were the lowlands, the areas occupied by the Egyptians.

    continued

    http://www.biblearchaeology.org/pos...-Canaan-during-JoshuaJudges.aspx#.UpuLe3Ao6P8
     
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    the VAST majority of Jews today, are Caucasian not black African.
     
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    thats a leap…i just see that it should be realized how much they got ripped off…

    i use Lebanon as a symbolic area of land that should be theirs in relevance to what the Arabs have….
     
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    israel should be happy with what they have
     
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    No they were not from Ethiopia.. That's some Rastafarian fiction.

    Egypt used Canaan as a buffer against rival empires further north, such as the Mitanni. Canaan was also a source of revenue through taxes, tribute and trade. Egypt stationed small garrisons in major towns like Jerusalem and created administrative centers like the one at Beth Shean in Israel.

    These centers had buildings with distinctive Egyptian architecture and were inscribed with hieroglyphs. Canaan developed sporadically under Egyptian rule. Although some major centers prospered, many towns and villages declined in size or were abandoned. No new city walls were built.

    Egyptian imperialism led to a dramatic increase in cultural exchange. Many Egyptian bureaucrats and soldiers were stationed in Canaan and Egyptians and Canaanites often lived side by side. Musical instruments, poetry, myths, weapons, clothing designs&endash;even gods and goddesses&endash;passed from one culture to the other. Many of these influences were long lasting. Scribes in Iron Age Judah continued to use Egyptian numbers 550 years after the end of the Egyptian empire.

    Although it may be interpreted from Egyptian written sources that Egypt exercised little control over this region after the Nineteenth Dynasty, the archaeological evidence from Palestine suggests otherwise at least for the first kings of the Twentieth Dynasty. Beth Shan remained an Egyptian colony with houses built according to Egyptian style, complete with door lintel inscriptions in hieroglyphics. Egyptian architectural structures, square-shaped houses made of mud-brick, occur at Aphek, Ashdod, Beth Shan (1550 and 1700 houses), Gaza, Hesi, Jemmeh, Joppa, Tell el-Farah S (Sharuhen) and Tell Masos and Tell esh- Sharia (Ziklag).

    The Timna copper mines continue to be controlled until perhaps Ramesis VI. Egyptian pottery can be cited from many early Iron I sites as well. In summary, it seems at least plausible to suggest that Egypt continued to dominate this region at least until the mid-part of the century and perhaps to the end of the century at least at Beth Shan.


    http://www.penn.museum/sites/Canaan/Egypt.html
     
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    The Romans ruled them not vice versa.

    The Jebusites settled and constructed Jerusalem.
     
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    Happy ? Nah - they're far too greedy to ever be happy - with whatever they've got. (wink)
     
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    Worth noting that the area they gained was considerably larger than ORIGINALLY PROPOSED by non-binding UNGA Res 181 which was also subject to further negotiations
    by UN Envoy Count Folke Bernadotte , and who the Jews promptly murdered , when they learnt his report meant that those greedy Zionists would NOT get as large a slice of PALESTINE as they expected.


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    not even going to address the propaganda you posted after this..


    Ethiopia is the the place where the oldest known remains of mankind can be found.

    Everything that came after these people is do to evolution and geography.

    There is another theory ,unproven ,that Early Peking man is similar in nature.
    the only thing that supports the Peking man thing is earwax.
    White people, and black people and people from India all have a liquify ear wax and people that seem to have originated from early peking man have a dry ear wax.

    but for sure modern day Ethiopia is the origin of jews, arabs and white people who were all nee black..

    your rastafarian comment is bullocks to the tenth degree..

    the thread is about Why Israel got ripped off and got such a small sliver of land…

    you come into the thread with Arab propaganda and anti Jewish rhetoric.

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    Thje Romans dealt with the Jewish leaders..

    it's getting boring and hard to discuss with you …you want to twist history to suit some asinine agenda of hatred towards jews.
     
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    FALSE

    there is no evidence that the first homo sapiens were black.
     
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    They may have migrated out of Africa 100,000 years ago but they weren't Jews.

    One Falasha tradition claims to trace their ancestry to Menelik, son of
    King Solomon of Israel and the queen of Sheba. Some scholars place the date of
    their origin before the 2d century bc, largely because the Falashas are unfamiliar
    with either the Babylonian or Palestinian Talmud.

    http://www.falasha-recordings.co.uk/teachings/ras.html
     
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    Queen Victoria was a biologist and anthropologist???

    lol!!!!!!!


    you fail.
     
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    What exactly did Queen Victoria censor? Do you have a link?
     
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    to be honest i don't base any of my history of the known world on stories that cannot be anything but myth.

    The Queen of Sheba, King solomon, really now Margot how low are you going to grovel in this thread.

    One of your cohorts is adamant that we are not all coming from Africa…he freaks out at thought that his grand dad was blacker than the ace of spades..lol..

    you toss in Arab propaganda, now it's The Queen of sheba….wow….

    Everyone on earth deserves a place to call their own… the arabs have more than enough territories to share amongst themselves.
    But they don;t , they fight amongst themselves, have so since time immortal .

    Now they they live with and beside Christians and kill christians and destroy their churches and make life unbearable for Christians..

    I don;t expect them to understand that this slice of desert sand now an oasis is well deserved by the jews.

    You come in here talking of European invaders…lol…without a thought of where they originated..

    here have a look and tell me you got this right
     
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    she wasn't exactly a fan of Darwin..
    And the idea that her ancestors were black and not Adam and Eve doesn't bode well with the Divine placing her on the Throne of England…
     
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    ah...I see.

    you're another one of those "King James was black" folks.

    lol!!!!!! :roflol:
     
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    Tools found in KSA indicate that Africans crossed the Bab al Mendab some 100,000 years ago into Arabia..

    There's a thread on the findings but I can't find the thread
     
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    LOLOLOL. OK..

    Humans and their migrations are much, much older than the Bible stories.
     
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    Next this guy will tell us that King James of England, was black.

    :)
     

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