I was having coffee with Satan the other day and he said that God doesn't exist. If good ol' Beelzie said it then it must bt true.
God is Omnipresent HERE. Frankly--I don't know if he chooses to be THERE in some way. God's power goes way beyond your thinking. And--God does not commit evil.
fantastic! god is omnipresent in some places, but not others. maybe. and .... god does not commit evil. he gets others to do it for him. keeping in mind here that god's notion of good and evil are for the most part inverse to those held by anyone with an ounce of objective morality - but for the sake of the argument, it stands. you are the best anti-theist ev-a - - - Updated - - - what in hell is it, then?
Most of the posts here assume the poster knows the nature of God, the nature of Satan, and the nature of good and evil. If this is so, then you're superior to both God and Satan. If it's not true, you blaspheme. Atheists say religion is man made. If your theology is no more than an entertaining game of making deductions from a set of postulates, then you help make atheists' case. Much of the theology here is not in the bible but was constructed by medieval churchmen. This theology may have the strength of tradition, but it's clearly man made, since the books and church councils from which these ideas come are part of the historical record. Last, this theology is strictly Christian. Other religions have very different ideas, and you have no reason, other than your own unquestioning belief, to assume the Christian version is correct.
And you change your vies more often than I change my shorts. We are done. You are too inconsistent for me to bother with. You are too young and mentally undisciplined. Try the way Jesus taught. You will not believe me but it works. [video=youtube;FdSVl_HOo8Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y[/video] Regards DL
Thanks for taking this fool to task. I do not have the patience to walk him though definitions and meanings of words. He sounds like he is about 16 or less and has yet to read the bible. Regards DL
Satan nor God as you use those titles have a nature. They do not exist. Good and evil does and we do know those natures and can usually identify which is in play. Can't you? If you can then why would you be surprised that we do. BTW, I am not an atheist. I am superior to God and Satan. All people are. Satan and God represent the epitome of good and evil and most of use can think of worse and better than what the scribes could come up with way back when they invented their Gods. Most are better than God as most would never think of killing to the point of genocide. We would take the moral high ground and cure instead of kill. God takes the Satanic low moral ground and kills. You will also note that Christians prefer secular law as compared to your God's draconian and barbaric laws. [video=youtube;dx7irFN2gdI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI[/video] Regards DL
Duh. Who in their right mind would want to hang around with a genocidal son murdering prick who seems to kill whenever he is near anyone. Note the link above. Listen to how your loving God tortured a baby for 6 days before finally killing it. You go ahead and stay as close as you are to God. He like you there. http://imgur.com/a/90sTN Regards DL
God isn't dictated by your assumptions. God has the power to be everywhere or nowhere--His choice. He has the power to be there, but not be there at all. God's power is much greater then your power to imagine. And the tree is...like I said...the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It is not a good and evil tree. Frankly...its a pretty simple difference. I don't know if you are honestly confused or just wanting to post words from spite.
So...it would seem God is instead dictated by YOUR assumptions......you must spend quite a bit of time explaining him to himself.
I'm an atheist, so I don't believe there's a Mr. God or a Mr. Satan with whom one might converse, though it would be a thrilling conversation. I believe I know good and evil, but my understanding may not match yours. Psychological research shows that most people base their notions of acceptable and unacceptable behavior on the dicta of authority or on what other people seem to think. Most people don't engage in moral reasoning or have any ethics independent of their society. For this reason, ideas of good and evil change as society and its leaders change. History will show you that even 50 years ago, common ideas of good and evil in the US differed from today's. Look at other countries and the difference is even greater. We all like to think our ethics stands on principles universal to humanity. Such is not the case. Let me give examples. Killing people is wrong, agreed? But even here and now, we except police and military actions, and we except unintended consequences such as people dying because we fail to supply aid that we might have. When Charles Dickens toured the US in the 1840s, he found that Southern gentlemen routinely murdered one another over matters of "honor." A murdered man might be avenged by friends, but these matters almost never wound up in court. In the Illiad, when Achilles mourns the death of his friend Patroclus, he builds a great pyre to which he chains several Trojans; then he burns everything. No one reproaches Achilles. One could go on endlessly, but the point is that most morality is situational. The Christian iconology most people reference when they talk about God and Satan assumes eternal "rules." I can have fun with Hollywood versions of God and Satan, but I never make the mistake of taking them seriously.
- John Milton Actually, I'd rather serve in heaven. I don't feel like reigning over anything anymore. I'm tired of the administrative detail.
Only from our perspective from Gods there can be no free will. As I said before if he tweaks his creation on the quantum level you and I might not exist. He choose not to tweak it, he chose to make it just as it is meaning our fate was sealed long before we were born. Everything we are, from the chemical make-up of our minds to the biology of our bodies to the butterfly effect of events streching back to the big bang determined how we would think and therefore how we would act. You have the same freedom of will now as you did before you were born.
We may not always do the good but mankind has known what was good and what was evil a long time before the common era. Psychobabble aside, man has been the same animal for a long time and has not fundamentally changed for at least what10 thousand years. Regards DL
I was a content atheist ( just as I was a content Liberal at one time) until unbidden clairvoyant experiences got out of hand and too revealing and illogical that there was no way I could be so aware. That pretty well shatters atheism and absolute belief in science is all. There do exist non physical entities. And some are evil / bad as in the cases of possession. Maybe the good "possessing" ones hide better while they possess. Now consider peoplekind's delineation between "good" and "evil". That is the divinity within us, most shallow in sociopaths, psychopaths and such. Dogs & cats have a sense of order, can be taught not to defecate on the carpet but, do they get good vs evil? We know from more recent studies they have a sense of "group" psychology and are not the vicious survivalist Darwin indoctrinates us to. YouTube a goat that spontaneously become the leader for blind horse or a cat for a blind dog. Goodness? Go figure. The only thing I am certain of is a non physical world involving both good and evil. Moi
God speaks through psychobabble. Better that than the Aztecs, who sacrificed people (from weak tribes) to their gods and ate the arms and legs. I guess that was an instance of humanity's primordial goodness.
