Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is in my news feed, dated 3 hours ago.
    Oklahoma's ERs are so backed up with people overdosing on ivermectin that gunshot victims are having to wait to be treated, a doctor says (msn.com)

    Its a total lie (like 'Ivermectin is for horses, not people'), debunked a day or so ago by the Oklahoma ER in question. Apparently this giant pile of BS originated at the Rolling Stone, which now has the following message (below) from the ER heading up its huge pile of BS story. But despite that, the mockingbird media continues to regurgitate this lie on numerous repeater sites that do not include the statement from the hospital that its total BS.

    "Message from the administration of Northeastern Health System - Sequoyah:
    Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room.
    With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months.
    NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose.
    All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care.
    We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support."

    Home - NHS Sequoyah

    Why the hell is the media engaged in a propaganda campaign against Ivermectin? Some of you have fallen for it and posted your 'people are taking horse pills for covid' crap storiers here on PF and (hopefully) got corrected. Do you have a theory why your trusted news sources would make such things up, and make you look so silly in the process?

    ...I mean, I'm pretty sure I know why, but why do you think?

    (Why is this in the covid news section? Well you tell me why people start talking about Ivermectin as a potential treatment for Covid and suddenly the media starts making up fake crap about it, if its not about covid.)
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    No medical science group such as CDC, WHO, FDA, etc., has approved ivermectin for human use for preventing or treating COVID.

    There are stories of humans taking ivermectin formulated for animals, and that is STRONGLY discouraged, as the formulations are not the same.

    How many reasons do you need??
     
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    IMHO a strange transformation has occurred where ordinary items like masks and vaccine shots have transformed from ordinary medical procedures into LW religious/cult sacred icons - which must be worshipped as miracle cures for the dreaded COVID. NO OTHER medication, treatment or therapy may be allowed. And, of course, any disparagement of masks or vaccine is burning-at-stake heresy.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    K, but why is it the media fabricating things?
     
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    It's pretty much ONLY the right wing that has objected to masks and other standard procedures as if they are some sort of crime against "freedom".

    The fact that they keep being brought up is because that is what we have in the way of tools for fighting this pandemic. Masks, not congregating, travel limits, etc. are the tools humans have had for fighting viruses - human, not left wing or right wing.

    As for "allowed", what's being applied is EXACTLY like what has been applied for decades.

    We can't really have our government marshalling our defense against this pandemic based on homeopathy. And, the reason is that there is NO EVIDENCE that it is either safe or effective.
     
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    ??? The media ALWAYS fabricates stuff. And, they pass on crap without questioning it, so they don't even have to be creative in their crap!

    To have a prayer of answering your question one would need to know what the actual fabrication is.

    So, perhaps you could cite something.
     
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    Your complaints are about the media.

    But, the thing is you can go directly to the science. In fact, you can go to several science sources and compare them. It's not as if respected sources of science in other countries differ significantly from the respected sources in the USA - thus dodging issues of US politics, corporate influence or other stuff you may be suspicious of.

    So, you can create a short list of sources that couldn't be perverted without a stupendous world wide conspiracy - a conspiracy that would be absolutely impossible to create or sustain.
     
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    I cited it in the OP. The story that ER's are being overburdenned with patients suffering from having self administered veterinary Ivermectin is patently false. People are taking Ivermectin for covid, some of them are self administering, some of them are doing so with the veterinary grade, and a few of them are injuring themselves with it... but the story about ER's being overburdenned with them is made up. I'm asking (clearly in OP) why make up that part of the story, and why continue to push the fabrication even after it has been debunked?
     
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    Short answer - they always lie, embellish, exaggerate, misinform and screw everything up.

    Easy fix - don't allow other people to tell you your opinion on the subject. Go to the source, listen to the person speak, read the transcripts and make your own decisions.

    We are on the verge of civil war so more of us have to step up to the plate and stop all this petty bickering. Our country is at stake here. We have to do something different than what we've been doing.
     
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    I'm not going to try to dive into that!

    I'll bet there are first responders and medical staff that are pretty darn POed, though.

    In many places they are already overrun by COVID patients.

    Now, they have to divert attention to try to save IDIOTS who ingested compounds against STRONG medical advice.

    The same is happening with the IDIOTS who refuse to be vaccinated, by the way. They clog up ICU beds and staff has to risk personal exposure while helping them even as they die when they were too stupid to get vaccinated!!
     
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    You should "read more" of the OP, it's kinda the topic....
     
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    They have the same risk treating the vaccinated...
     
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    According to the CDC those vaccinated are less likely to catch and less likely to pass on COVID.

    Perhaps just as importantly, those vaccinated at least did what they could. Disdain is usually reserved for those who had a clear option, but refused to take it.
     
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    And here we are. Citizens trying to run a representative government based on information from a corrupt media.

    No wonder we are FUBAR.
     
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    The article says the quote was about "rural hospitals", not the specific hospital mentioned.

    The person making the quote worked for a group that covers multiple hospitals, not just the one where the comment was made.

    The article includes the hospital statement that they had not treated ivermectin overdose cases.

    I understand why that specific hospital would be upset about that quote being made from the context of their hospital.

    And, the OP contains NO link where any investigation was done or what that investigation found.

    Maybe you can point to something I missed.
     
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    Q. Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

    A. The media has been lying since the day the DNCIA killed Kennedy.
     
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    That is a ridiculous generalization.

    However, it DOES point to the fact that we have to be better consumers of media.

    Far too much of what is on this board about COVID is based on ONE quote from media with NO confirmation from CDC, WHO, FDA, or any other source of science based medicine.
     
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    What lie about ivermectin is being promoted by media?
     
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    Fortunately, I pay little attention to media - because they lie.
     
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    Actually, no it's not.
    My point is that they keep being bandied about as THE ONLY possible tactics; when any other treatment is suggested the left forms a lynch mob and goes into full "hang 'em high" mode.
    But our government should explore other paths as well.
     
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    So, you don't even know IF anyone is lying about ivermectin!!
     
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    First, you are clearly NOT aware of the effort the entire world of science based medicine has put into searching for other solutions.

    In the USA, CDC and the FDA have done EXTENSIVE research to find other solutions.

    In fact, they combed the list of every approved medication that exists to find something that had a method of action that might help those with COVID.

    That's how they found hydrochloroquine, for example.

    They then designed tests to determine their effectiveness.

    They've also tested ivermectin and many other ideas to see if something else could be found that would help.

    >>>The problem comes when idiot bloggers promote solutions that HAVE been tested and have been found to be dangerous or ineffective.
     
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    As for your "hang 'm high" concern...

    The only responsible action to take when it is found that a substance is not safe and/or ineffective is to make sure people know NOT TO USE IT.

    At the VERY least, allowing false ideas to persist means that there are people who are being distracted from what is safe and what works.

    Why should ANYOPNE allow that kind of damage to the health of Americans?

    What is the REASON that YOU think people should be encouraged to use unsafe and ineffective substances in the false hope of improving their health??

    Seriously. I want to know what your reason is on this one.
     
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    I've overheard some media mention Ivermectin. Therefore, the media is lying about Ivermectin.

    Call me a cynic.
     
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