Why is there no peace in the Middle East?

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  1. HBendor

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    [video]http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11085[/video]
     
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    There is no peace because both sides feel entitled to all of the land, and aren't willing to share with a hated enthnicity that is culturally obligated to kill the other. This goes for both sides.
     
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    Check out the Arab newspapers... They rarely mention Israel.
     
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    You must be kidding me and many other readers...
    I would post many links to show the readers that what you wrote above does not make any sense.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is there no peace in the Middle East?

    Because the nazi zionists have your politicians by the dangly bits, as everyone knows. Next question?
     
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    Check out Saudi Gazette, Arab News, Gulf Times, Daily Star, Yemen Times.
     
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    Most Euopeans felt the same about the nazis. People are like that.
     
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    Well, the general area is one of strategic/resource importance and has been for a long time. So, between: France, Russia, UK, and USA the area has been interfered with continuously.

    So, for example, when France and the UK created the states of Jordan and Palestine we went out of our way to make their states weak and divided (so that we could keep control over them).

    Unlike a lot of the rest of the world, this control has continued passed the colonial age. For example, look at Saudi Arabia, America support for its mad government has kept it as a problem in the area.

    The Middle East is a big area, so there are a lot of different issues, but I think that sums the main ones up.
     
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    Sharing the land - was'nt a problem , before the Zionists arrived - was it ? Looks like some Jews are'nt keen on sharing anything , are they. ? THey want the whole Pizza .



    In the words of Rabbi Dovid Weis (when -Israel is dismantled ) "Then we can once again live according to the will of the Almighty, Arab and Jew as neighbors, as we have been doing for so many hundreds of years up until the inception of Zionism.



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    Yes of course and Israel reduced to 23% of the Mandate while the Lion share went to Jordan 77% is one of the tiniest country in the middle East and the Arabs (owners of 21 States are trying very hard to suffocate and eliminate a member of the UN with a population reaching 8 Millions)
     
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    Sorry , not sure if I get exactly what your point is: Israel is small? On that we can, no doubt agree. Was there a further point?
     
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    I was under the impression that posting here on this thread is understood that you may have enough historical background on the subject matter... Well it is too long and tedious for me to start da capo.

    Please google 'The Mandate for Palestine" and you might have then, enough info to swat a few on this board to reality.
    Here is one of the links.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)
     
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    Good grief.. The SAG aren't "mad" and never have been... nor were they EVER a colony.
     
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    Again, I really feel like we are talking cross purposes here. I already have some knowledge of the history/politics of the area, so I don't need links from you, but thank you for taking the time to post me one.

    However, I'm just not sure what your argument is with what I said exactly? Might you make that a little bit more clear please?

    I'm really happy to debate with you regarding what you think are you key causes to the problems in MENA. But, if I don't know what that is then we are hardly going to make progress are we? To be honest, at the moment you are just being rude, and I'm sure that's not all you can bring to the table.
     
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    Hi, OK so clearly mad is rather a matter of opinion, perhaps that was a little rude of me, I apologize. I see how my post might have been read to infer that Saudi was a colony, it wasn't intended to do so. Thank you for clearing that up.
     
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    The big Pizza friend is Israel of today (23%) together with Jordan of today (77%)...= the Mandate
    Now the 23% ARE so manipulated by Arab propaganda to create an additional irredentist state in the heart of Israel...
    Naftali Bennett will see that this never happens for it endanger the very existence of the Jewish people.


    Not worth my time with this NETUREI KARTA quote... this so called Rabbi (I would like to see his accreditation Certificate) are ignoring reality and are still living in the 11th century with their big mouths and regalia.
     
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    If you have already some knowledge... what is the purpose of the above letter?
    If you donot understand the present history of the Middle East, please write me an E Mail, I will of course consider explaining it to you.
     
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    Look, I you really seem to be a bit confused. To debate you need to first make a point. Let me help, full out the below form:

    I think that a bit problem with Middle East peace is................................
    because.........................
     
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    Is so relieving to see such a respectful person on this forum. Welcome! Salam!

    As for HBendor, as you will soon come to find out, he isn't great at returning the respect.

    His narrative for the Palestine-Israel conflict is usually...

    Well, he starts off with "tiny Israel is so small", ignoring that "Israel" has the most advanced army in the region and is constantly threatening other, bigger countries in the region. Even attacking them in some cases.

    Later, he will mention "Arabs have so many states, meanwhile the Jews have just one", ignoring that there isn't an Arab-exclusive state, and that the policies of "Israel" - such as the Jewish-only settlements being built on Palestinian land - are very much Apartheid-ish. Also ignoring that this one self-described Jewish state was formed by displacing hundreds of thousands of people, and is maintained by oppressing millions more.

    He will then go on about things like how "Jews were kicked out of Arab countries", ignoring that it was not only Zionists who encouraged the Jews to leave their homes (even resorting to violent false-flag operations) to move to "Israel", but it was mostly Zionist Jews who were expelled. They were not expelled simply for being Jewish. This 'expulsion' was a reaction by Arab states to the expulsion of Palestinians by Zionists in "Israel".

    Then he will accuse you of anti-semitism as a desperate, last-ditch effort to try and gather himself together.

    Once that fails, and it will, he will simply start another thread. And the process will repeat. Endlessly.
     
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    Uncle Ferd says is `cause it's hot inna desert...

    ... an' when dat sirocco gets to blowin'...

    ... it drives the people crazy...

    ... an' den dey get to fightin' an' killin' each other...

    ... just like in California an' the Santa Ana winds...

    ... made crazy ol' Charlie Manson go onna killin' spree...

    ... has sumpin' to do with static `lectricity's affect onna brain...

    ... when the heat an' wind interacts with the quartz inna sand.

    Granny says is `cause Jesus ain't come back yet...
    :grandma:
    ... an' thumped dem Moolamics onna head...

    ... an' put `em in dat lake o' fire an' brimstone...

    ... fer messin' with the Jews alla time...

    ... `cause dey's His people, don't cha know?
    :cool:
     

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