Why is Vlad Pootin so stupid and crazy?

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  1. pitbull

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    He claims Zelenskyj is a drug addict and Nazi, but Zelenskyj is a Jew. WTF?

    Pootin wants to denazify Ukraine. But why? There are no more or fewer Nazis there than in other (western) countries. Many Ukrainians are patriots and violently resist Russian aggression, but fighting for freedom for one's country is not Nazism!

    Putin is a mighty liar, but he's too stupid to lie. Everyone immediately realizes that the Russian dictator's lying around the clock. :(

    Putin's enemy isn't Nazism. His enemies are freedom, democracy, liberty, and the rule of law. Madman Putin fights these things for decades and the poor Ukrainians now have to pay for it.

    Nearly 1/2 million Ukrainians are now on the run. :(
     
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    Instead of making a thread calling Putin an idiot, actually think of the reasons why he is doing the things he is doing. As if he isn’t a crazy person, and anyone in his position would make the same assumptions he makes.
     
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    There is usually no reason to attack a neighboring country. Ukraine did never plan any aggression against Russia. It's only Putin's sick brain that caused the war.

    Putin is a psychopath. Just look in his face when he's talking about a Nazi-led Ukraine. :(
     
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    Putin is neither stupid nor crazy. He is totally enmeshed in a game that can only be played one way. He is a prisoner of that deterministic path. Continuing is the only thing he can do other than cease to exist. The only hope is that he liberate himself, or someone do it for him.
     
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    He is no idiot but he is certainly drunk on power. At this point he is dangerous not only to Ukraine but to Russia as well. Watch. This won't go well for Russia.
     
  6. ToughTalk

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    Maybe you should start watching some lectures and talks regarding Russia and Ukraine because these threads just wear me out.

    Putin doesn't acknowledge the independence of Ukraine. He sees them all as Nazi's. He says the greatest travesty of the 20th century was the fall of the Soviet Union so that should help get you into his mindset.

    But you know what? If you want to further understand his crazy, do what I did. Go watch some videos instead of asking important questions that are just going to get shitty answers on these boards.
     
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    No. Don’t say that nonsense. What if Putin is a symptom of a larger problem instead? It wouldn’t matter if Putin is gone because the system that created him still exists?

    It probably will. Russia will suffer even more from forced austerity measures.
     
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    Putin has been corrupted by his power. Many a man has fallen from grace because he thought he was all powerful. Putin probably didn't believe the whole world, including his citizens, would turn against him. This aggression will not end well for him. Too bad he didn't learn from history.
     
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    Lying about another to justify one's actions isn't new. It's been done by politicians in the US for decades and certainly ramped up in the last six years. The important thing is recognizing the lie and not falling prey to it.
     
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    He may well be psychotic, but stupid he most certainly is not. This is a guy who started at the lowest ranks of the KGB, worked himself into a full Colonel position, and ended up at the top of the political heap, with all of the power and all of the people's money. Think of what it took to achieve that in a culture of repression, secrecy, corruption, and the frequent murder of one's enemies.

    Rumor has it that he's become isolated, with very few people allowed access to him. When he meets with even his top guy, Foreign Minister Lavrov, Putin sits at the head of a long table while Lavrov sits about 10 seats down one side. It's weird, and not as usual for Putin. If he's no longer rational, we should be very concerned that he's put his nuclear units on high alert.

    Crazy like a fox
     
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    His own "made men," the oligarchs who own most of Russia's wealth, made liberate him ... with a bullet to the back of his head. They are bleeding money over this. So are the Russian people ... their currency has lost more that 30% of its value. Their savings are disappearing, with little hope of recovery. They may finally get their revolt.
     
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    I don't think he sees them as Nazis. That's just the spin he's using to justify the invasion. He wants the territory and it'srespurces. This invasion is about the same thing most wars are about: territory and power. IOW, money.
     
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    Started in 2014 I guess
    https://ukrainecrisis.org/248426082...s-bizarrely-insisting-ukraine-is-run-by-nazis
    "So, what does Putin mean by "de-Nazify?" Stephen Colbert asked journalist and Russia specialist Julia Ioffe on Thursday's Late Show. Ioffe said that when Ukrainians protesters ousted a pro-Kremlin president from Kyiv's Maidan square in 2014, "there was a very active right-wing nationalist, sometimes neo-Nazi, contingent, but it was a minority on the Maidan. But the Nazis are a powerful enemy in the imagination of all former Soviet regions, including Ukraine, and Ukarin has been throwing the Nazi label back at Putin, too."
     
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    She's very bright. A frequent guest on MSNBC.
     
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    Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. He's had all of the power in Russia for more than two decades.

    Russia is the biggest country on the planet, rich in natural resources, not just fossil fuels. The various regimes since WWII have had chances to use those resources for the betterment of all Russians, but a corrupt culture and way of thinking has prevented what could have been prosperous times.
     
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    I think Putin spent too much time watching Fox News. According to Fox News Biden is senile, weak, communist who hates America. He knows that with God’s and Kremlin help in 2024 the US president will be a true patriot who cares about America as much as he cares about Chinese ZTE corporation:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...on-china-trademarks-donald-trump-zte-reversal

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ons-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5

    So logically, today is the time to attack Ukraine before it will be too late.
     
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    What you said pretty much applies to most wars and disputes. China thinks of Taiwan as part of China, Iraq with Kuwait, Argentina and the Falklands. They all want to change the current world map back to a time they think is right. Much of the conflict in the middle east is because they had arbitrary borders drawn for them.
     
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    I’d put in age as a factor. At 69 he’s gotta be feeling the pressure to restore the old Soviet Union and cement his own legacy in doing so.

    The question is if he has to choose between his legacy and the good of his people, which way will he go? As things become worse for him domestically and he has nothing to show for it, will he become more brutal towards both foreign and domestic fronts or will he back down for the sake of his people?

    if I had to guess I’d say he will be brutal. Nothing about who he is suggests otherwise and he’s got nothing to lose.
     
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    there are great recent examples of such hubris much closer to home.

    "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." proverbs 16:18
     
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    Once a couple of Russian generals question why they are killing innocent Ukraine citizens and trying to take over a sovern country that did not attack Russia, the generals may permanently take care of Putin so as to end the bloodshed and aggression. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
     
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    Sure. But the main point is you need to understand Putin and what might trigger a man that has control of 6000 nukes. Cause it's kind of important.
     
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    Sure I agree with the nuke argument but the history point is a red herring if we don't care only because Iraq or Argentina has no nukes. Either historical borders are important or not. I have no problems with the we need to tread carefully with Putin because he has nukes argument but then this history is not relevant.
     
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    This is going to sound bias but historical borders are not as important for those who do not have nuclear weapons and the will to use them. Russia has lots and I fear the will. And that means their voice at the dinner table is much greater then those without. That's just the way it is.
     
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    That's for domestic consumption. Russia has a national memory of their deadly fight against the Nazi's - though they were a pact with them previously. Putin is trying to convince his people that he is in a righteous fight against Nazi's, and it doesn't look like his lie is selling very well.

    As for whether he is stupid or crazy, he is ruthless and he has the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the worlds and multiple means of delivering them. Make no mistake. He is a very dangerous man and this is a very dangerous situation.
     
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    He isn't stupid. Crazy yes. It's the oldest tale of History, as far as I know there is probably two way of justificating war :
    Pretending to be the one who is assaulted no matter how much agressive you are, that's what nazis did, and many other for more recent wars.
    For instance nazis pretended that they were "defending" europe against "judeo-bolchevism".
    The other one is less relevant there but was the one used for colonialism, holy wars is to consider that you are superior and you "enlighten" people with your religion/culture. That kind of justification is less relevant there.

    As far as I know, the russian people globally like Ukrainian people that they see as a sister people, so the only way Poutine can justificate his war is to tell they're defending Russia, and that even they're helping Ukrainian people. It doesn't matter if it's true or false, it just matter that it's repeated enough until Russian people truly think they're the one that are assaulted.
     

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