Why Perry Can't Win

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  1. NoPartyAffiliation

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    The GOP / Tea Party / Libertarians have a real quandry on their hands with this guy. I really liked him when we lived in Sugar Land, TX but we were pretty insulated from the poor / lower-middle-class there. I have to admit, I was not paying attention to a lot that was going on. I thought all was fine.

    So the biggest debacle the Conservs have had recently (in the eyes of everyone but themselves) was the debt ceiling. Polls ranged anywhere from 65% - 78% of people thinking the GOP handled it disastrously. Doesn't matter if they were right or had a point, elections are won based on perception - and the perception was overwhelmingly poor. This was one of the few areas in which Obama (although he too had poor ratings) came out looking WAY better than the GOP. So debt is a key issue.
    What's Perry's record on debt? Oops. What will the Dem sound bite be? "A vote for Perry is just like a vote for bringing George W. Bush back to the White House!" Oops.
    Then there are those things about his highway and giving the government land and power? Oops. Big Government guy eh? More Bushlike.
    Owned by Big Oil? Of course. More Bushlike.

    But here's what's worse for him. Subliminal Psychology. The stuff we don't even notice, that effects our decision making.
    I voted for Bush (the good one, not the idiot). I was floored when he lost! He was the first incumbant president in history to decisively win a war that the whole nation was behind - and then lose re-election.
    I used to lecture on Pyschological Profiling at USD and decided to make him a case study. Bush was a long-time spook. One of the things you learn in the biz, is misdirectional body language. Shaking your head no, while you say the word "yes", for example. Bush was a master of this and it killed him. In one speech he held his thumb and forefinger an inch apart. What does that mean to our subconscious? Small. What was he actually saying at the time? "The Hispanic community is very important to me." What was the message sent to Hispanic voters? He's lying.
    In another speech, he held his hands together and then motioned them outwards. What does that mean? Pushing apart. What did he say? "I'm here to bring us together. To work as a non-partisan." Again, the subconscious message that he was lying.
    Now I think he actually meant those things but he had so much training in misdirectional body language, he couldn't help himself. So whether or not he was genuine, at the subconcious level, he wasn't perceived as genuine. That cost him.
    So now we come to Perry. I've been watching and listening. There are three things that make impact: Visual appearance, Vocal tones and patterns, Choice of words.
    Perry dresses and moves a lot like Bush (the idiot, not the good one). He's very "down home" and Texan. Even likes cowboy boots. This is bad.
    Perry's vocal tones and patterns are a LOT like W. I heard him on the radio and thought it actually was W for a second. He speaks slowly, with a Texan drawl. He pauses a lot. He laughs just a bit, here and there. He speaks in a tone that is mostly light-hearted and then varies to anywhere from serious to mildly angered. This is all classic W.
    Finaly, Perry's choice of words come straight from the Texas Handbook of Politics. It works wonders at home and worked wonders for W in both elections. And if it wasn't for W, it might make a fantastic contrast to Obama. But because of the spectre of The False Texan Conservative of Elections Past, it will be a killer for him.
    Add to that, the actual, legitmate challenges he faces with issues such as spending and he's cooked. It's not that people would move toward Obama, it's that hoardes of Independents, Moderates (yes, there is a difference!) and others would move away from Perry.
    So like I said, I liked Perry when I lived in Texas. I think Obama sucks. But for reasons beyond the recognizable, Perry would almost definitely lose a general election. A lot of people will "just have a bad feeling" about him and not even be sure why. Remember, most people don't research candidates, couldn't tell you if the 2nd amendment has to do with guns or ice cream, and vote based on the impressions they get from 30 second sound bites. It won't be hard for the Dems to gather sound bites that make Perry seem like a virtual clone of W.
     
  2. GiveUsLibertyin2012

    GiveUsLibertyin2012 New Member

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    All the candidates have a chance to win,unlike Obama.
    Im trying not t o be biased but I dont think the Texas thing will effect him,so far its not.Hes drawn huge gatherings and attention where ever he goes in New Hampshire and South Carolina.Im sorry,but contrary to what the Left wants America to believe,hes very far from being Bush.Bush went to elite schools,Bush wasnt even born in Texas,he was born in New Haven, Connecticut,unlike Perry who was born in a small town in Texas.Other than than the twang,I dont find them anywhere alike.
     
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    This guy is just another Emperor without clothes wannabe. He is SO unelectable, like the other fools that have been paraded before an adoring crowd of desperate haters, that it's laughable to think they'd actually waste time on him. But yet Ron Paul has no chance with them? And with the Rove/Bush machine licking their chops at cutting his legs, the guy is a dead man walking. Romney McCare has no chance being Mormon, Bachmann is soon going to crumble under the weight of her own words, Palin... giggle, Christie is another weak dream, so enjoy the Obama decade.
     
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    Seriously, its going to come down to Bachman, Palin or Perry for the chance to debate Obama, the greatest debater since Kennedy and Reagan? I thought the dems had no chance with John Kerry and Walter Mondale running, but the left will be raking in the votes by the time 3 debates are over and either of those 3 makes a complete tool out of themselves. This election will be BAD for the right, and I can't wait. Its going to get hilarious when one of these guys ends up on ticket. Please oh please, let it happen.
     
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    I get a kick out of these no party affiliation folk.

    Their the experts on everything and masters of none.

    Awesome....simply Awesome.
     
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    It's "They're" sweetheart.

    And we NoPartyAffiliation get a kick out of you too :hug:
     
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    Well as I said, I actually like Perry.
    This isn't meant to be an "Our guy is better than your guy" post because Obama sure as hell ain't my guy! This thread was also poorly titled. Of course, ever candidate has the possibility of winning. It was just meant to offer something a bit more intellectually stimulating and a little different than the usual "Yeah well your guy sucks! Oh yeah, well you're a NeoCon! You're a Socialist! Yeah, well look what your party did in 1951...." Kind of stuff.

    I'll think I'll do one on Obama next.
     
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    That will actually work in Perry's favor. I'm not a huge fan of Bush, but the last thing the Democrats want to do is to remind us what things were like before Obama took office.

    Perry will subliminally remind Americans of a time when America was not in decline.
     
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    Well you probably won't agree but it seems the majority of people put Bush at fault for leading us into decline in the first place. Hell, McCain interrupted his campaign to fly to DC & help "rescue the nation", while Bush was still in office. So while Obama has made things worse (depending on with whom one speaks), Bush definitely remains strongly associated with our current problems.
     
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    When has Obama truly debated? He barely did better than McCain in 2008 in the presidential campaign photo ops that we call debates, and McCain isn't a particularly good speaker. Obama love is comparable to the Emperor's New Clothes. He's a good orator when he has a prepared speech (i.e. like the presidential "debates"), but on the fly, he's not much better than GW Bush.
     
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    That's why it's good for Perry when the Bushies (aka Karl Rove) blast him.
     
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    Obama isn't king. The courts are about to rule a very strict and limited interpretation of the Commerce Clause with the Obamacare case, and that will end your nasty little moral superiority complex along with any Democrat Dreams of further National Action.

    The Law doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if you hate Cons or not, it also doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if Obama is President or not, or if Dems hold a majority in Congress or not.

    So enjoy a decade of lame duck, becuase it'll be a cold day in hell before you ever get another piece of crap liberal legislation through again under Obama. A lame duck Obama is a good alternative to a GOP President IMO.

    If we can't have Conservative Government that's okay, then we'll gridlock you and nothing will get done. It's really that simple. This country will be run on our terms, or the Federal Government won't run at all. Cons will be fine, we don't rely on Government for anything, its Democrats that will be starving in the streets. Even if the Federal Government collapsed tomorrow Red States would pick up the burden and we'd STILL find a way to make money and do business and (*)(*)(*)(*) you people over every chance we get.

    So enjoy it, we STILL control all the Capital, and he who controls the Capital controls the Country.
     
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    Yeah,,this is why he is tie with Obama already,,,hahahahahah I really think you should pay some attention to the polls...
    http://patriotupdate.com/11259/romney-leads-obama-perry-ties-him-in-head-to-head-match-up

    President Barack Obama would tie with Rick Perry, lose to Mitt Romney and face a tough race against Ron Paul or Michele Bachmann in a head-to-head race, according to a nationwide Gallup poll released Monday..
     
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    Something to think about.....

    The last Presidential Campaign - Nobody really knew much about Obama. He came out of no-where, a nobody.

    But

    Oprah went on a nation wide support for him. She refered too him as Rock Star with Hollywood Good Looks and Swagger.
    Simple mind ignorant people aite it up, and soon were brainwashed into his 'Change' America Concept.

    Today.....A nation has found Obama to be a useless, clueless, do nothing President that is good for few things.
    Trying to 'Change' the American Constitutional lifestyle too a Socialist Rule Goverment.
    Bank Rolling and continues sending Trillions of U.S. dollars too Muslim country's.
    And taking vacation's.

    He has been questionable on his American Birth Place (which is still ?).

    Yah...Let's dump on Rick Perry??????
     
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    Huh? How has Obama changed the Constitution and what evidence do you have for the US being a "Socialist" country?
     
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    Read it again genious.....The majic word is........ 'TRYING' to change.

    Give Obama another term.....with all the new restrictions from Big Brother placed upon you.......You will be sucking air.
     
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    Perry will win because the rich/elite's will do everything in their power to see it through. Even if they have to cheat, which they have never had a problem doing in the past.
     
     
    Perry will be president unless;
     
     
    #1. His untimely death.
     
     
    #2. He gets caught sucking cocaine off the belly of a gay dude while wearing a tight Lassie suit, in an airport/roadside bathroom, on film.
     
     
    #3. Or is caught by Dateline in a pedophile sting, also on fim.
     
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    That's highly subjective and without evidence..
     
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    I dont know.He is the bilderbergers poster boy so dont be surprised.
     
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    From wiki..

    The Los Angeles Times reported on August 16, 2011, that Perry received $37 million over 10 years from just 150 donors, which adds up to over a third of the $102 million he had raised as governor through December 2010, according to the group Texans for Public Justice. Almost half of those donors received big contracts, tax breaks or appointments during Perry's tenure.[3

    yep..
    sounds like another career politician .
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    exactly. well said.George W Obama has accelerated everything Bushwacker started. perry is the posterboy for the Bilderbergers so cant blame him for dumping on him.just as long as he dumps on Obozo as well just like you did rightly so.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you always do this :ignore: when evidence like that is shown to you so why bother?:rolleyes:
     
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    Liberals are just being willfully ignorant. Socialism doesn't happen overnight, it's a gradual process. Obama has done everything in his power to speed up the process. And it's not that he's changed the constitution, he's just provided (*)(*)(*)(*)ty arguments to override it or deem it "not applicable" in certain situations and most people in Washington just kept quiet.

    I think you'll find that the people who say he has followed the constitution have their own issues with the document themselves.....
     
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    Um yeah. And Quinniapac has him ahead by 9% over Perry and 7 over Romney. Gallup & Rasmussen = Right. Quinniapac & NBC = Left.
     
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    Perry will be the next President. Get used to it!:)
     

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