Why race and IQ studies are useless.

How many Psychology textbooks can you reference that cite Rushton and speak favorably of his work on race as being empirically valid? Nisbett is cited by many and clearly his research is accepted by academia. I have a lot of reading to do before I post my new threads but in the mean time perhaps you can respond to this thread.

 

I didn't say what topic specifically, I said they cited him in general. That was the point I was making. It seems to have flown over your head.

And don't tell me to respond to something when you've been ducking defending your source materials for 2 years. Thanks.

 

If you can't show that they cited him favorably then your point is meaningless.

I haven't ducked anything. You are ducking responding to that thread because it exposes you.

 

You already did that on the thread you are accusing me of ducking. You DID read the whole text, right?

I didn't duck the thread. You put it there as a smokescreen to avoid having to defend Nisbett's work.

You claimed hiatus from here until you read the book in question and have not lived up to that. Trust me, I didn't think you would.

Don't accuse people of "ducking" things when you have consciously tap danced around defending Nisbett's work for 2 years and running. That makes you look very bad.

 

So the mentally retarded can "fix it"? What is mentally retarded? It's considered someone with an IQ of 70 or lower and with a severe learning disability.

Good luck.

 

Don't know, don't care. I'm not a Rushton defender/acolyte/reader, remember?

 

Btw, asserting in a vague, general sense that environment has X influence on IQ doesn't prove that "discrimination is responsible for low black IQ scores."

First of all, sub-Saharan blacks with a lot less contact with whites have markedly average lower IQs than black Americans. As such, your environmental IQ argument would suggest that discrimination in a white majority country was a good thing for black average IQ instead of a bad one like you assert.

Secondly, that in general environment can impact IQ doesn't mean that it does in terms of what you're asserting. I've noted that none of your sources have actually shown that "discrimination" has been proven to negatively impact anyone's IQ. Rather, these scholars are trying to tie it in to the general environmental thesis by engaging in coat tail-riding of sorts. What I have seen in texts regarding environmental impact of IQ is for extreme prolonged deprivation, such as malnutrition in famines. I've never heard of someone study showing that "discrimination" causes IQs to drop, and it's especially noteworthy to point out that what constitutes discrimination is often highly subjective anyway.

Thirdly, if environment plays that heavy role in IQ, then A) Why do studies consistently show the heavy genetic impact on adult IQ, and B) Since all groups come from a poor-environment background, why have some groups become much higher achievers than others, since we all came from nothing? It would seem to me that according to your theory, we should all have low IQs since human origins are very primitive.

 

Scratch my above response.

The Myers text mentioned it regarding the side of the discussion representing the hereditarian explanation of the group IQ differences discussion, so again the source you wanted is in front of you.

 

I wouldn't scratch it, it's correct.
sub-Saharan (un-enslaved) IQ is 70.
admixture American Black is 85, midway between the sub-Saharan 70 and 'White' 100.
Exactly what Genetics, not social/environmental factors/"persecution," would predict.
IQ is 75% Heritable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#Estimates_of_the_heritability_of_IQ

And what about "Racism" against Asians?
Many brought here as Indentured Railway labor just as the Blacks were being freed from slavery.

Japanese interned and losing everything as late as WWII.
Their (unlike Africa) resourceless country completely destroyed in 1945.
Look at them, or 'poor' China; or destroyed-in-1950s S Korea, Now. Look at sub-Saharan Africa.

How is it they have Higher IQs than Whites who 'discriminate' against them?
Higher IQs than the culture the test was originally designed for?
Higher IQs (when adopted) than their white Middle Class parents, while black children have lower IQs in the equalized socioeconomic situation?

How is it that this 3-way pattern is repeated Worldwide?
Regardless of socio-economic, etc, remarkably (rather, predictably) the numbers come out the same.

and of course the OP is a total waste. An anecdote that says nothing about the general truth of the issue, nor even the full specifics of his genes/race/IQ.
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