Why Renewables Can’t Save the Planet

How right you are.... the witch from the Bronx has oracled that we only have bout 11 years left... tic toc....

 

I thought that was pot, but ok, tequila it is. So, now all you have to demonstrate is that we have terminal cancer...

 

And everyone knows that fish require water, which is wet and contains oxygen (H2O) and oxygen is the reason for rust (oxidation) which is the reason Mars is Red so obviously red roses are initially from Mars.

 

Might have been a much shorter post if you had just said something like.. oh... you're right. Clearly, you also don't understand that roses are red because violets are blue.

 

Most people are in denial of terminal cancer/climate change...so no problemo mon...

 

I agree...not only will it take longer than I will be alive but no one can do anything about it anyway.

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

 

https://climatenexus.org/international/ipcc/ipcc-1-5c-report-planet-nearing-tipping-point/

Curious how many years you believe until we have passed a tipping point?

 

A tipping point to what? Nice phrase, but entirely meaningless. How many folks around the globe froze to death this last year? I suppose you just think that's acceptable? Why do you suppose your version of Goldilocks ism is more valuable than something else, or different? More, why do you suppose that you have an entitlement that requires nothing ever change? Kinda pejorative of you, don't you think?

 

Sort of shoots to hell the novel idea for each of us to leave Earth in better condition than when we arrived...we can't even stop humans from littering and we think these same people are going to be up for an open-minded chat about climate change...the pessimist in me says no way...the realist in me says good luck...

 

Why not just say you don't believe there is a tipping point, that climate change is a hoax...at least provide an honest answer instead of attacking me...

 

Because climate change is not a hoax. Climate does change. All the time. Ask, "why isn't there a mile thick sheet of ice covering what is now NYC..." and there is an answer. The climate changed. Was there a tipping point? probably. What caused it? NOBODY knows... So, somewhere around 15K years ago, the ice started melting. And it hasn't really stopped since, has it? Except that we have that last little ice age that lasted a couple hundred years from around 1370 to 1850 or so. And then, guess what? It started melting again. Which continued up until recently, again, why? There are a lot of reasons, some of which we can't determine the extent of their impacts, but let's just say that it is a continuum of potentials from how much cosmic radiation the planet is exposed to, to solar cycles, to cloud coverage to, well, many, many variables. That the IPCC would suggest that they know definitively that they can stop the cycles or otherwise mitigate future changes is entirely laughable. If it makes you, personally feel better, be conservative. I am. But that isn't because I feel like I am ameliorating anything, it's because I just live that way because it makes sense to me.

Also, if you find you can't express why you believe, why engage in the conversation? That isn't "attacking" you, it is challenging you to express why you feel the pejorative entitlement you do. If you don't find it reasonable to be asked those questions, sounds like a personal problem to me.

But, what I can tell you is that the IPCC is financially motivated by greed to enforce their version of carbon taxation to fund the development of the rest of the under-developed world that they are shilling for. If you weren't aware, spend some time educating yourself, there are plenty of resources that have and continue to expose this scam for what it is. Just like the 11 year oracle from the witch from the Bronx.

 

Didn't limestone come from seashells which global warming is eliminating? The formation of carbonaceous shells is one of our carbon sinks and we are eliminating reefs

 

I don't suppose it occurred to you to read the link I provided? No? The original assertion was we needed to find a way to make concrete a CO2 sink. Since it includes the use of Limestone, it already is. Or did we forget that part? Also, limestone formation is a super long process that results in all kinds of sedimentation constituents. Read dead things....in whatever form they left.

 

I have never known anyone to try to purposely release carbon dioxide from seashells

Actually fermentation to make alcohol releases CO2 but nobody complains about that

did you know that every gallon of gasoline makes 20 lb of carbon dioxide gas when combusted? Isn't that amazing when a gallon of gas only weighs 6.8 lb?

Last time I dug myself I saw a human emissions were a hundred times that of volcanoes

and as soon as a scientist starts debating a source of carbon dioxide somebody will argue it's not

not to divert too much but to chemical plants blew up recently in billowed poisonous toxic smoke into the atmosphere of the neighborhood surrounding them one was in Houston

Are these relaxed environmental protection agency regulations really worth it?

 

Not as big a laugh as we got when you asserted that limestone is a plant based material. Of couse it is, several hundreds of thousand, if not millions of years removed.

You flat earthers sure come up with the most entertaining notions.

 

Even information societies need material resources and energy for basic needs and wants. The amount needed given the current world population is far higher than what biocapacity allows.

 

Given reports from various sources mentioned earlier, that future is closer than most imagine.

 

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So,... your answer to having been schooled is... gibberish? Sweet. That seems to work for you.

 

So... your response to having been schooled is.... not gratitude for sure, but derision? The simple fact is limestone is already a carbon sink. right? So, the original protest that concrete isn't useful was bogus from the start. And your response to having been wrong is this? Again, laughable. So, careful you don't fall off the edge of the flat world you seem to want to inhabit.

 

The lengths you won't go to the defend a ridiculous claim.

A lot of you reactionary right wingers do this. Make up something totally idiotic. Then ,instead of backing off of it, you go to great lengths to try and prove it, just to have the last word.

Like your fuhrer, many of you think having the last word is winning.

Trump demonstated the fallacy of that notion on December 11th, when he had the last word. In order to prove himself "right" he put about a million people out of work for a month,, and then wound up losing anyway.

I doubt that you even had the slightest idea what calcium carbonate is before you went looking for some way to have the last word.

I suppose your solution for global warming is to cover the earth with oyster shells.

Calcium carbonate is not organic. It does not, and did not live. It is secretions.

It is mined, ground and used as an emulsifier in dozens of industrial products including glass, plastic and paint.

It is used as a fluxing agent to remove sulpher from coal fired power plants, and glass furnaces.

You have put calcium carbonate in your own body many many times.

 

Talk about needing to justify stupid... The claim was about whether concrete was or could become a carbon sink. I pointed out that it already was. and when challenged that it wasn't, provided the citation from Columbia univ pubs describing exactly why it is. All the rest of your yammering is just that, a spread of gibber jabber that argues a point not argued, so please stop making it because I didn't and you just look ridiculous for it.

 

Well...let's start with common sense; we know when we burn fossil fuels we are emitting CO2, and we know that humans are doing this today.

We know approximately how much CO2 is being emitted.

We know by comparing measurements of atmospheric CO2 today to CO2 trapped in ice that CO2 levels today are higher than anytime in hundreds of thousands of years.

Basic physics tells us CO2 absorbs heat.

We know that today's changes in climate can be correlated to higher levels of CO2.

We know that today's climate change is not part of Earth's natural cycles or effected by the Sun.

We have a consensus among scientists using empirical data and computer models.

Lastly, you continue to politicize this issue with your personal attacks against IPCC and Ocasio Cortez. Your mind is CLOSED which means it's meaningless to others for you to be in this conversation. It's unclear to me what people like you fear? What's wrong with joining an intellectual conversation about what WE KNOW or what WE STRONGLY AGREE? You are like some people who smoke tobacco every day, who claim they are just fine, who claim they do not harm others, no matter what the research tells them because it's a cop-out for them to declare there is no proof and their inability to rationalize facts with an open mind. Since I'm in my eighth decade of life on Earth, and since the first half of my life was in Los Angeles and my latter half in beautiful northern CA and being fortunate to have traveled the world, I don't need anyone to tell me about the changes I observe with my own senses! I'm not so stupid that I cannot understand the outcomes from adding billions of humans, billions of animals, the expansion of industry, polluting our air and oceans, to finite Earth! Only an idiot won't see the correlation...

BTW; Do not bother with your personal attacks or trying to debate my comments above...I too can be closed-minded...

 

IMO the inhabitants of Earth basically teeter on the brink of myriad horrific events. Fact is we're just along for the ride and humans may or may not survive. We mostly TAKE from Earth with little to no regards about tomorrow. Most of us don't care about climate change or pollution or Earth's finite resources because our personal greed rules the day! Therefore, time is no longer an issue...it's just a matter of when...

 

What a cop out. You assert things that you clearly cannot demonstrate, or otherwise support with repeatable experimental data derivative of those experiments. And then you run away because you don't feel like being challenged on the ignorance of these assertions. But one hopes that you feel better personally. The warmth of that sand must be mesmerizing...