Why Ron Paul could not become president.

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  1. danielpalos

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    How could Dr. Paul be any worse than the rest of the right.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    I would agree with you, but our Founding Fathers were wise beyond their years when they specifically enumerated only sufficient socialism to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.

    By no latitude of construction is there any delegated authority to provide for the general warfare nor the common offense. Such Acts should require real times of War and Wartime Tax rates on the wealthiest to prove the exigency that required it.
     
  3. dujac

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    yea, i have to thank him for that

    now the whole world can laugh at paultard antics

    [video=youtube;1V7-zCNGttc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V7-zCNGttc[/video]

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    Like how everyone laughs at you being a sheep; slave and being part the globaltards that can't argue with logic. Your the one person on this forum that does EVERYTHING to slander Ron Paul, hell you extended this damn thread 28 pages.

    You're so ignorant, and naive. You hate Ron Paul because he is the one person that discredits all your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). He lost the election for simple reasons 1) Republicans rigged it so he can lose. 2) He wasn't sell out for the global elites 3) He speaks truth to bring down the whole corrupted cess pool down 4) He's not willing to submit himself as a slave like you are 4) He believes in the constitution, and doesn't misinterpret it to benefit the few. He's done more in his life time than you, created a movement that is now being taken seriously that you cannot accept.

    It's funny how you use his Youtube videos to justify your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It's opposite, it has energized real Americans who truly believe's in our principles, and beliefs not like a traitor like you. So you continue to slander him, such as calling him a racist, yet black people support him. He even helped black people while he was a doctor. In the end, your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) cannot trump truth, and Dujac seriously sad to say you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  5. dujac

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    oh please, i'm like an untouchable force of nature

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    he lost because he could not win a single, state primary election, not one

    even people in his home state knew better than to vote for the old nut case


    you're completely wrong

    ron paul said the constitution says that only gold and silver can be legal tender

    it doesn't say that at all
     
  6. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Wow. What an enthusiastic endorsement.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    If forced to use one word to describe Ron Paul supporters I would choose the word, "sophomoric."
     
  8. politicks

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    Simply put, he's too old. Ron would be 80 years old at the next election, 12 years older than any elected president.


    Nos President Age at Inauguration
    1 George Washington 57 years, 67 days
    2 John Adams 61 years, 125 days
    3 Thomas Jefferson 57 years, 325 days
    4 James Madison 57 years, 353 days
    5 James Monroe 58 years, 310 days
    6 John Quincy Adams 57 years, 236 days
    7 Andrew Jackson 61 years, 354 days
    8 Martin Van Buren 54 years, 89 days
    9 William Henry Harrison 68 years, 23 days
    10 John Tyler 51 years, 6 days
    11 James K. Polk 49 years, 122 days
    12 Zachary Taylor 64 years, 100 days
    13 Millard Fillmore 50 years, 183 days
    14 Franklin Pierce 48 years, 101 days
    15 James Buchanan 65 years, 315 days
    16 Abraham Lincoln 52 years, 20 days
    17 Andrew Johnson 56 years, 107 days
    18 Ulysses S. Grant 46 years, 311 days
    19 Rutherford B. Hayes 54 years, 151 days
    20 James A. Garfield 49 years, 105 days
    21 Chester A. Arthur 51 years, 349 days
    22 Grover Cleveland 47 years, 351 days
    23 Benjamin Harrison 55 years, 196 days
    24 Grover Cleveland 55 years, 351 days
    25 William McKinley 54 years, 34 days
    26 Theodore Roosevelt 42 years, 322 days
    27 William Howard Taft 51 years, 170 days
    28 Woodrow Wilson 56 years, 66 days
    29 Warren G. Harding 55 years, 122 days
    30 Calvin Coolidge 51 years, 29 days
    31 Herbert Hoover 54 years, 206 days
    32 Franklin D. Roosevelt 51 years, 33 days
    33 Harry S. Truman 60 years, 339 days
    34 Dwight D. Eisenhower 62 years, 98 days
    35 John F. Kennedy 43 years, 236 days
    36 Lyndon B. Johnson 55 years, 87 days
    37 Richard Nixon 56 years, 11 days
    38 Gerald Ford 61 years, 26 days
    39 Jimmy Carter 52 years, 111 days
    40 Ronald Reagan 69 years, 349 days
    41 George H. W. Bush 64 years, 222 days
    42 Bill Clinton 46 years, 154 days
    43 George W. Bush 54 years, 198 days
    44 Barack Obama 47 years, 169 days
     
  9. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Nice list.
     
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    That is what seperates Ron Paul supporters from the rest of us. \

    Most people have a set of beliefs and vote accordingly. Ron Paul supporters support whatever he tells them too.
     
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    No, if he would sart talking about attacking Iran they would support Gary Johnson or somebody else.
     
  12. dujac

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    he couldn't become president because he's a goldbug, nut case


    The Gold Collapse Is Personally Costing Ron Paul A Fortune

    Walter Hickey | Apr. 15, 2013

    A few weeks ago, we figured out what was happening to the Ron Paul portfolio — the former Texas congressman's 64% investment in gold and other rocks — and it wasn't pretty.

    His portfolio is comprised of major miners and a handful of juniors, and displays a marked lack of diversification.
    Investment manager William Bernstein told the Wall Street Journal that “This portfolio is a half-step away from a cellar-full of canned goods and nine-millimeter rounds.”

    We looked at Ron Paul's most-recently disclosed portfolio. Granted, he may have picked up the stocks at any point in the past several years, so he's probably still above water on the investments. It's also conceivable that since he's left public life he's pared back a lot on his holdings. So we're just going based on what's public.
    Still, these have taken a shellacking, and it's likely that he's lost a significant percent of his net worth, assuming he's held on to them over the past six months.

    Here's what has happened:

    Newmont Mining Company: –37.29%
    Goldcorp Holdings: –34.64%
    Barrick Gold: –48.17%
    Agnico Eagle Mines : –35.78%
    Allied Nevada Gold Corp: –68.48%
    Alumina Common: +6.32%
    Anglo Gold Ashanti Ltd. –44.13%
    BrigusGold Corp. Com MPV: –39.18%
    Claude Resources Inc: –56.39%
    Coeur D'Alene Mines Corp: –47.21%
    Hecla Mining Co: –47.74%
    El Dorado Gold Corp: Not Listed
    IAM Gold Corp: –65.40%
    Kinross: – 44.11%
    Lexam Explorations Inc: – 57.57%
    Mag Silver Corp: –-40.50%
    Metalline Mining Co: Not Listed
    Pan American Silver: –35.97%
    Silver Wheaton Corp: –37.50%
    Virginia Mines Inc: —16.48%
    Vista Gold Corp. –53.9%
    Viterra Inc +0.81%
    Wesdome Gold Mines Ltd: –43.29%
    All told, the average loss was -40.3% over the past six months
    Given that The Wall Street Journal reported that Paul's portfolio was worth between $2.44 million and $5.46 million — and that 64 percent of his assets were in these precious metal stocks — a very loose estimate is that Ron Paul has lost between $624,640 and $1,397,760 over the past six months, based on the average loss of his mining holdings. This assumes a 40.3% loss on 64% of his holdings.

    A lot of that pain has come in the past two days alone. Here's what has happened to the portfolio since last Thursday:

    Newmont Mining Company: -12.51%
    Goldcorp Holdings: -11.38%
    Barrick Gold: -18.03%
    Agnico Eagle Mines : -15.59%
    Allied Nevada Gold Corp: –16.23%
    Alumina Common: -10.47%
    Anglo Gold Ashanti Ltd. –16.41%
    BrigusGold Corp. Com MPV: –16.19%
    Claude Resources Inc: –19.32%
    Coeur D'Alene Mines Corp: –14.74%
    Hecla Mining Co: –13.27%
    El Dorado Gold Corp: Not Listed
    IAM Gold Corp: –16.67%
    Kinross: – 21.19%
    Lexam Explorations Inc: – 17.78%
    Mag Silver Corp: –-21.50%
    Metalline Mining Co: Not Listed
    Pan American Silver: –14.41%
    Silver Wheaton Corp: –14.30%
    Virginia Mines Inc: —11.36%
    Vista Gold Corp. –13.58%
    Viterra Inc +0.0%
    Wesdome Gold Mines Ltd: –1.79%
    Pretty bleak.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-investment-gold-2013-4
     
  13. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't necessarily generalize all Ron Paul supporters as such. Granted, some are young and new to politics, but not all as naive as some appear to be.
     
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    I don't agree with everything he supports but I supported him for President in 2008 & 2012. As such, I don't fit in your description, so I wouldn't necessarily stake your claim as such.
     
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    So he lost money in gold when it dipped is your assessment on why he couldn't be President? Wow...
     
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    he can't be president because of his nut case positions on money, monetary policy, the gold standard, the fed, taxation, interpretations of the constitution, racist newsletters and etc

    notice how what you wrote is completely different from what i wrote

     
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    See, that's a lot better than what you previously stated.

    Funny because 99% of your post was about how Ron Paul lost money in his investments because he was investing into companies that focused on gold. If you meant more than just that, maybe there should've been a balance to it (IE: Monetary policy, the Fed, Taxation, etc) and not just about gold.
     
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    I would like to know why a gold Standard was not seriously discussed by the right when we had massive federal budget surpluses at our disposal.
     
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    Their support of Dr. Paul defines, but doesn't quantify, their naïveté.
     
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    Ron Paul couldn't be president because he couldn't get enough votes to be president, because most people didn't like him.
    It's really that simple.
    If he had been elected, he would have been the Mikhail Gorbachev of the US. the last president of the United States, because what he'd expose would make people toss the whole mess and start over.
    But it was never close, and it won't be close with Rand Paul either.
     
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    Ron Paul could not become President because not enough people would vote for him.
     
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    because economists know it doesn't work

    gold is an inelastic, volatile commodity and it's not a good idea to base your currency on something volatile

    http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/gold-369936-standard-money.html


    …adhering to the gold standard severely limits government flexibility in responding to what’s actually happening, economically, in the world. The business cycle goes up and down, recessions — and crashes — come and go, and over time, governments and economists have determined that a mix of fiscal and monetary policy can ameliorate the harshest effects of those zigs and zags.

    Economist Barry Eichengreen has famously pointed out that the countries that were the first to abandon the gold standard in the Great Depression were the first to recover. Those who continued to stay on the gold standard were forced to keep interest rate high in order to maintain their currency’s gold-pegged value. But high interest rates are bad medicine during a recessionary economy. They just make things worse.

    http://www.salon.com/2012/08/31/the_gold_standard_delusion/
     
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    So, if it wasn't necessarily a good idea when we had massive federal budget surpluses at our disposal, why should any rational Person in our republic believe it could work with massive federal budget deficits at our disposal?
     
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    Millenials are the best voters out there. Quick to stab and less loyal,. they are the product of centuries of political scheming. In a good way.
     
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    Yeah..... the Paulisms you don't hear much about.... take wacko WAY further than you think. You can NOT run the USA in 2016 like its the 19th century.

    Paul wants to throw the whole 20th century in the dumpster.. cut EVERYTHING (especially Tax on the rich) and have a Govt that's main JOB is monitoring women so they don't abort. On TV.. he won't say he'd abolish public schools,Social Security, Medicare, EPA, FCC, FDA, and you name it. He HAS however said he'd drop that and a few HUNDRED other things.... basically.. blow it ALL up. When younger he got elected to Congress in Texas.....so what?
     

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