Why should journalists not get shot too?

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  1. spt5

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    Journalism is the sword that is mightier then the sword. Journalists run the media according to the PR orders of the highest bidders. The highest bidders are the banks and they push the nationalist propaganda in every country, to entitle themselves to limitless depths of your life and pocket. Journalists are also in wars with each other, they push their fellow journalists out of business as a service to propaganda. Since wars are started and decided with journalism, journalism determines the fighting spirit of soldiers, and journalism defines what is legitimite and "just", shouldn't we consider journalists simply another form of combatants?
     
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    Why is nationalism bad?

    Nationalists do what is best for their country first and then other countries. America is based on it.
     
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    I think I need to disagree a little with this, because the USA was established at a time which was before nationalism was invented. When established, the US was a network of communities, much like the network of independent regions within a kingdom, as standard of those years. We Americans have an institution called the Electoral College, that originates in that concept. No nation state would ever risk to create something like our Electoral College, because nation states insist on having an unchecked power in the hands of the national ethnic majority.

    When people say that nationalists have a country, I think it means that the best financed ethnic group of a region kills off its neighbors and begins to call itself the nation. France is the prime example, for example see the number of Occitan speakers dropping from ~100 % of South-Eastern France before the french revolution to ~10 % today. The Slavs are the most brutal and unscrupulous proponents of the idea of nation states, Hitler is nothing compared to the results of the Slavs, and they are proud of it.

    I think it may be a good idea to nationalize Europe though. But this should be done in a fair way, not like it is today. All Europeans should be given a vote to voluntarily assimilate themselves to the highest voted member state. Today, some member states loot and run their nationalism against their neighbors, which should justly lead to war. On 2nd thought that's not a bad solution either, considering that if we can start a new war, this time Germany has the world's support to win it.
     
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    It originated in the French and American revolutions. Nationalism is the reason America grew strong and powerful. America was a nationalist country all the way up to FDR.

    Are you talking about the Soviet Union?

    This will kill of Europes unique ethnicities.
     
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    I think the American Revolution was about protecting one's own turf. On the other hand, the french revolution was about wisecracking to drum up an ideology for bullying and assimilating your neighbors.

    Yes but not only, I include all the states that the Soviet Union created too, which is pretty much every slavonic state except Poland and Croatia as they had existed before the 20th century.

    Yes. My logic is to oppose double standards. So, since now Europe gives "licenses" to some ethnicities to kill off other European ethnicities, but not to all to kill all, either this process should be stopped or all of them should die. I think the latter is easier to do in a nationalistic union such as the EU.

    I think that the German or the British should be the single surviving ethnicity, because the German are the power of economic opportunities, and the Anglosaxons are the globalized modern freedom of association, partnership, cooperation, business, ... .
     
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    The banks run the nationalist agenda too? I'm having a hard time keeping track of all these corporations, jews, and banks running both nationalist and marxist agendas. sense? I see little of that too.
     
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    Journalists are essential to getting a clear picture of world events. Sure, journalism is under lock and key from Bashar's side in Syria and journalism has been twisted with the west's own biases. But again using Syria as an example, Western journalism has been forced to report on some of the atrocities from the rebel side as well lest they lose all credibility to the small independant news organizations. If nothing else journalism can provide us with a distorted 'gist' of what is going on. I don't think the propaganda would be any less bullsh*t if all the journalists were dead.
     
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    Nationalism is bad because there is no unifying national experience. What have you in common with a capitalist who makes thousands of times more money than you and spends their days in exclusive areas unnafordble to our ilk? Nations are the way the local capitalist class devide up their territory - nationalism can only serve to falsely bind the workers to their local oppressors. The workers have no country.
     
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    National banks were created. Then these national banks created their nation states. It is possible that verious corporations, and group interests such as the jews create the national banks. The national ideology is the tool of national banks to control people. You can test this, by trying to move any money, however little, between nation states.
    Don't journalists write mostly for whoever pays them? Under this premise, they are no different than paid soldiers, and all you get from them is brain-washing, no real information.
    I would like to say, that the workers get brain-washed into thinking in terms of nationalistic boundaries, like the old religious boundaries, and it is the financial circles that control it all who fly above all ideas of statehood and countries.
     
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    Assuming everything coming from a journalist's mouth is complete bullsh*t
    is far too pessimistic. Journalism is more than a profession, it's a movement. Many journalists maintain a devotion to 'the truth' from their experiences reporting stories from oppressed minorities, war zones, etc. It's similar to how doctors often feel a devotion to the idea of helping humanity - their work involves helping people.

    In China journalists consistently get in trouble with the government because they want toreport the truth, and let's be honest, investigating the truth must be far more fun than falsifying reality to suit someone else's interests.
     
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    You can get killed bein' a journalist in Mexico...
    :omg:
    Journalism a deadly profession in Mexico
    Saturday 27th February, 2016 - On the morning of 20 February 2016, radio and television host Moises Dagdug Lutzow was assassinated at his home in Villahermosa, Tabasco. It is alarming that within the space of a month three journalists have been killed in Mexico, while federal authorities have at the same time failed to provide a strong response to ensure optimal conditions for journalists to freely carry out their work.
    See also:

    U.S. State Department can do more to protect press freedom abroad
    Friday 26th February, 2016 - This statement was originally published on freemedia.at on 17 February 2016.
     
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    That's an excellent question. And I think you'll get an answer to it in your lifetime.

    But drop the "nationalist" accusation...............really........you should do that.
     

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