Why should we help red states?

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    A friend of mine in Washington was complaining about hospitals in Idaho shipping critical Covid patients to them because Idaho hospitals are overwhelmed. Idaho is another one of those States full of free spirits who now want to put those "liberal" medical workers, hence the rest of the population in Washington at risk because they [people in red states] were idiots.

    It seems the spirit of freedom evaporates when you can't breathe.

    Trump loves to threaten Blue States for doing nothing more than following science. And red states not only put that bastard in office, they tried to do it again! Why in the hell should we sane people on the West Coast help red States? They wanted to be free spirits. So be free!
     
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    Let em die and screw them, right? Don't worry, dementia man and the ho will save us all.
     
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    Not wearing masks and social distancing is kind of the ultimate, "Let em die and screw them ...", so forgive me for thinking your
    post is pure bull crap.

    But every state - red or blue - should be doing all they can to help other states. It's just a shame that some people don't have the common
    curtesy to have the same attitude about wearing a mask as they would about wearing pants.
     
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    Red states would just as soon they were left alone. Problem is blue states cannot overcome their obsession with people who don't agree with them.
     
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    Can WA hospitals simply say 'no'? They should be able to if we valued states rights. Of course they wouldn't, rather they would just make sure they're getting fairly compensated, which I bet they are now anyway.
     
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    So that means I can expect to NOT see all the snowbirds from blue states in our town this winter? After all, unneeded travel in a pandemic is selfish and risky to others, right?
     
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    Following the science like putting Covid patients in nursing homes?
     
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    Without the income from those richer people, those ski resorts would collapse
     
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    Look up the term “snowbird”. It doesn’t mean what you think it means. :)
     
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    were not Trump\Republicans, so yes we will help the red States even though Trump would not help the blue States
     
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    are red States now putting all nursing home patients that test positive but show no symptoms in a hospital bed? nope... why, cause not enough beds for that

    the real issue

    "The Trump Administration’s Deregulation of Nursing Homes Leaves Seniors and Disabled at Higher Risk for COVID-19"

    https://www.americanprogress.org/is...leaves-seniors-disabled-higher-risk-covid-19/

    "Why are nursing homes being hit so hard by the outbreak? One reason is that they are a target of the Trump administration’s aggressive deregulation agenda."

    "In response, the nursing home lobby again advocated for less oversight, and in July 2019, the Trump administration proposed new rules relaxing the requirements tied to infection control. It suggested that consultants could be used, instead of requiring infection specialists to be employed at the site, at minimum, on a part-time basis. This meant that there was no longer a requirement for a full-time, hands-on expert in infection contamination on-site."

    the reality is, Nursing Homes should have separated infected people, they failed to do this, hospitals could not give up a bed for everyone that showed no symptoms and tested positive, not enough beds
     
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    What a laugh. Are you saying Cuomo's directive to put covid patients in nursing homes while Trump sent a hospital ship is Trump's fault?
     
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    has Trump ever said Nursing home patients with no symptoms should take up a hospital bed.... nope, never

    in fact, Trump basically says old people should die to save the economy

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    Not surprised you resort to ignorance of what Cuomo did and telling falsehoods.
     
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    I am just telling the truth, obviously the right doesn't like the truth
     
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    You wouldn't know what it is if it hit you in the head.
     
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    I know it's not the fake news Trump and Rudy are putting out that's hitting you on the head
     
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    How would you know? All you know is the real fake news fooling you without you knowing it.
     
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    If I recall my history correctly the Red States tried to leave the union back in 1861 but the Blue States weren't having any part of it. It was called the first US Civil War you might have heard of it. I think some groups are trying to start another one (not my job to keep track of it).
     
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    Biden will be your President too
     
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    Just because Bunker Boy behaves like an idiot, it should not mean that Americans should behave like that.
    Just treat the reds like a handicapped cousin, but take care of him.
     
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    We have no ski resorts in SW Fl.
     
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    Hey @Daniel Light do you have an answer?
     
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    Do you want me to address this question in my official capacity as Lord God King Most High of all the Liberals in the Known Universe?

    How the f*** would I know about people's travel plans?
     

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