Dennis Prager | Jun 18, 2013 Townhall.com Last week, in Nice, France, I was privileged to participate, along with 30 scholars, mostly scientists and mathematicians, in a conference on the question of whether the universe was designed, or at least fine-tuned, to make life, especially intelligent life. Participants -- from Yale, Princeton, Harvard, Berkeley and Columbia among other American and European universities -- included believers in God, agonistics and atheists. . . . http://townhall.com/columnists/denn...sts-embrace-the-multiverse-n1621935/page/full
Dennis Prager is a neoconservative. A propagandist designed to push his views on others. Another Rush or I forget who that other one is.
If I think of the Universe as a cluster of star stuff, with gravity or something holding it together, yet not static and allowed to expand, then what lies outside of our Universe? Obviously something lies outside because the Universe is expanding. If there might be infinite space outside of our Universe, then why not have infinite multiverse's? It's at this point that I lose my perspective since we're talking about distances so vast that they lose meaning. How can there be much meaning in infinity? It goes and goes and goes and it is not comprehendible to me how there can be no boundaries? It's kind of like those Russian wood dolls where one fits inside another and so on; a planet doll fits inside of a solar system doll which fits inside of a galaxy doll which fits inside of a Universe doll.......which fits inside of a ________ doll...
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it's an interesting concept which if true only further highlights our insignificance...and according to one of the proponents of a multiverse we will never see another universe the expanse of a mutiverse would be just too great, the best we can hope for is a mathematical proof for it's existence...
In terms of Earth, does an ant hill located in remote Africa have any significance to the remaining areas of Earth which are more than a few feet from that ant hill? If we think of our galaxy or Universe in this fashion, and certainly with multiverse's, is there really such a thing as 'significance'? Just as the ants in the ant colony located in Africa will never visit Europe or the America's, why do we need to believe Earthlings should travel the cosmos? We're just biological units located on a biological rock named Earth located in a biological Universe and if we exist then surely other biological units exist. Considering the size of the Universe, and the potential for a MultiVerse, IMO the biology of Earth is not unique...
There can't be boundaries, because space tells you (spacious, endless) (matter floats/moves inside space, big bangs occur and/or have occured, galaxies, solar systems, quasars, black holes, etc) Space itself is something, a dimension (3d, xyz) but x y and z are endless. Nothing (matterless and spaceless something) does not exist (only gravity and magnetism are 'nothing', exist because of motion of matter, atoms, photons, bosons, etc) Eternity does exist, because it is something (space, one space) An all doll
The universe is 14 billion light years across, because that's where the event horizon is. There may be the results of other Big Bangs 20 or 30 or a 10,000 billion light years away, it's a question we can't answer, because we have no information, the oldest information we can possibly have in our universe is 14 billion years old. Because it will be a billion years before light from 15 billion light years away will reach us.
Actually it's larger than that. The observable universe is over 90 billion light years in diameter http://www.wired.com The universe isn't "fine-tuned to us; we are tuned to the universe. we gained our characteristics from our environment. The environment did not form because we "needed" to have certain characteristics.
I agree there are no boundaries...it's just not comprehendible to me. If there can be two Universe's then why not a billion of them? While the Universe is what 13.8 billion years old, members of a MultiVerse might be 100 or 500 billion years old. Advanced humans have been around 200-300 years compared with 100 billion more years somewhere in a MultiVerse? If there are no boundaries, then there can't be an 'all doll'...
How can you see light from 90 billion light years away? The farthest visible light would be 14 billion light years away from the site of the big bang - - - Updated - - - it's already been traveling for 14 billion years.............
The multiverse can suck it. That episode of Star Trek TNG was one of the worst episodes ever. Also people need to recognize the difference between the universe and the visible universe. Also, according to my physics course the big bang happened all over the place, not just at a single point.
Because of the expansion of the universe, a photon that started our way 13,000,000,000 ago travels through a space that is greater than 13,000,000,000 light years. Best explanation I've seen is from the Khan Academy (great resource for any type of education). [video=youtube;6nVysrZQnOQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded& v=6nVysrZQnOQ[/video] ETA: the total universe is actually many, many, many (don't remember the exact factor) times the size of the observable universe.
in a multiverse our universe would be insignificant just as our galaxy is insignificant in our universe and our solar system in our galaxy as our earth is in our solar system, and us in regards to our planets existence...we are far beyond insignificant I don't, it's a futile endeavor.. agreed probability would suggest we are not the first or the last but considering the vastness and distance of time involved it's unlikely we will encounter another intelligent life form...
I'm not sure what the link had to do with the multiverse. Instead of discussing the multiverse, the link went down this creationist path, about the properties of the universe are exactly what they have to be for us to have the kind of universe we have. Which is true, if the properties were different, we wouldn't exist. That doesn't mean the universe was designed. You can take any event, and say, if the universe was not exactly the way it is this event wouldn't have happened, therefore the whole purpose of the universe and all creation was to provide me with my lunch today, and the Universe has fulfilled it's purpose, now we can coast, so relax and enjoy, from now on it's freebie, and thanks you all, for being costumed extras in the production of the universe, and my lunch.
I'd say Earth is pretty significant within our Solar system since as far as we know we are the only intelligent beings. I gotta wonder...if we didn't have TV and movies and books all providing science fiction stories, how would most of us view the idea of extraterrestrials? 99.99% of all the crap we talk about in terms of traveling through space, having close encounters, etc. is plucked right out of these fictional stories. The average person when exposed enough to Star Trek and Independence Day and War of the Worlds, etc. begins to believe all this crap is reality. We romance the idea of space travel, colonizing other planets, all at WARP speed but none of this is reality. I prefer to boil it back down to accepting humans are biological units in a hostile biological solar system and galaxy and Universe and believing if we exist then surely others exist. I'm not going to dream how these 'others' have solved all societal and health problems and don't work and have no need for currency with little arms and big bug eyes, etc...I assume all of them have the similar screwed up societies and government as we have here on Earth...
A propagandist designed to push his views on others, eh? Do you understand what view he's "pushing on others" in this instance? LOL!
Indeed, that's skinny on the multiverse model. There may very well be other universes beyond the cosmological horizon and/or "the other side" of the gravitational energy of a pre-Big Bang quantum vacuum. And while the notion of a multiverse matrix may be unfalsifiable, we are searching for patterns of collisions with other universes in cosmic microwave background radiation and for evidence of the gravitational effects of other universes on ours. http://m.technologyreview...dence-of-other-universes/ http://phys.org/news/2010...s-evidence-universes.html http://www.examiner.com/a...f-a-multiverse-discovered http://www.huffingtonpost...n_2922818.html#TID=TData= http://www.esa.int/Our_Ac...smic_microwave_background http://www.huffingtonpost...e-big-bang_n_2922818.html
Highlights our insignificance? How so? I wasn't aware that "our insignificance" (whatever that's supposed to mean) was a mathematically or scientifically definable thing. Relative to what exactly, in what sense, according to whom and why?
There may very well be other universes beyond the cosmological horizon and/or "the other side" of the gravitational energy of a pre-Big Bang quantum vacuum. And while the notion of a multiverse matrix may be unfalsifiable, we are searching for patterns of collisions with other universes in cosmic microwave background radiation and for evidence of the gravitational effects of other universes on ours. http://m.technologyreview...dence-of-other-universes/ http://phys.org/news/2010...s-evidence-universes.html http://www.examiner.com/a...f-a-multiverse-discovered http://www.huffingtonpost...n_2922818.html#TID=TData= http://www.esa.int/Our_Ac...smic_microwave_background http://www.huffingtonpost...e-big-bang_n_2922818.html
