Why Telling Blacks Who Vote Democrat They Are On A Plantation Is Racist

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  1. Rhym3pays

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    https://medium.com/@supermodelsonya/a-rebuttal-to-candace-owens-7734b24358b9

    I often hear conservatives both black and white shame black people who vote democratic as being slaves on a planation -- I personally find this insult to be itself very offensive and both idiotic, especially for a so-called black conservative to say it -- As this article pointed out:

    "To believe Black people need to rescue themselves from the “Democratic plantation” and vote Republican; is a silly myth that conservatives like to push. It’s insidious for a number of reasons. Me voting for a Democratic or Republican party is not akin to toiling on a plantation. It’s downright idiotic and disrespectful to those who actually did. They were beaten and raped on plantations. Me CHOOSING to vote for a political party is not the same thing. Every time this phrase comes out of their mouth, they should be condemned for this nonsense. I make a choice to vote Democratic. Slaves had no choice about being on a plantation. Stop dishonoring our ancestors."

    Now some of you may not think shaming black people SPECIFICALLY by saying they are on a plantation is racially derogatory but then I would ask you this..

    Jewish voters also vote overwhelmingly democratic -- but you never hear conservatives telling those voters that they are in Democrat gas chambers for doing so -- why?
     
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    The reason why people bring up 'plantation' is due to the poor history the Democratic Party has with so called black people. The treatment given to the black voter as they provide unearned support to the Democrats they vote for is akin to the same demo toiling on slave plantations while their rulers reap the benefits of their labor.

    Another thing. After a while on a plantation, there is this learned helplessness where one stops believing that they can be free, independent or self sufficient versus needing their rulers to micromanage their daily living. People are just drawing similarities between plantation living and the conditions of many black democratic voters.

    Next thing. With plantation living, the rulers often engage in psychological warfare to keep their subjects living in utterly controlled environments for the rulers' direct benefit. The same psych warfare is used on today's 'black' demographic for the same reason. The voter is basically supporting the people that have a long history of actively harming them and continues to do so.

    Telling 'black' persons who vote Democrat they are on a plantation isn't racist, it's just drawing a pretty apt historic comparison.
     
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    Every conservative attempt to discuss why black voters vote Dem in overwhelming proportions come back to the same themes: blacks are too stupid to know that they should be voting GOP, or they are lazy - only voting Dem to get a handout. There is never any meaningful attempt to treat them like every other voter and examine why they might choose to vote Dem, because to do so might force GOP supporters to face some unpleasant truths. It is easier just to give lectures & treat black voters as somehow 'lesser'.

    Of course, the fact that GOP supporters are incapable of viewing black voters in the same way they view others is intimately linked to the reasons black voters don't want to vote for the GOP. However, realising that requires a bit of self awareness. Not gonna happen.
     
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    The right is using the victim ideology of politics..
     
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    Hardly so since the Democratic party was split during the Civil war and up to the 1980's.
     
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    It seems to me that if this were true that Blacks would have figured it out by now...if it were true
     
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    What do you say about Democrats shaming Blacks who support Trump? Like Kanye and Tiger to name two...Democrats expect and demand that Blacks vote their way even though Democrats were the party of slavery and did their best to torpedo the civil rights movement until they realized that Republicans would get the credit because they had been trying to pass it since Eisenhower and Democrats wouldn't vote for it. Then along comes LBJ who had KKK sympathies(some say he was a member) and was a racist who decided that if the Dems voted to pass it, Blacks would keep voting for THEM. Democrats think that Blacks should just blindly vote for them, and when they don't they are called horrible names. Perhaps Democrats should google the history of their party before they just blindly accept whatever they are told. It isn't all that benevolent...
     
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    So a few people defected. The Democratic party has always been the same. Otherwise, they would have changed their modus operandi.
     
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    This point was addressed. They were enslaved for centuries for a reason. It takes attacks on the psyche to keep people from fighting for freedom, independence and self sufficiency. Nothing else explains the unearned support Democrats get from black democratic voters.
     
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    Considering at the federal level that the status quo was their MO also, one of separate but maybe equal once in a Blue Moon.
     
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    I can clearly tell you didn't read the link..

    As for shaming people like Kanye and Tiger -- they don't shame them because they are BLACK -- they shame anyone who would vote for Trump -- republicans who didn't vote for Trump are shamed by Trump supporters -- but not due to their race

    I also see you haven't addressed the question of why Jewish voters aren't shamed in a similar way
     
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    Nothing else you can bring yourself to understand.

    Look at the way you are talking about black voters. You are basically saying that they don't really understand why they vote the way they do. Yet you do. If only black voters would just listen to white people like you they would understand how much more you know about them than they know about themselves. If only they weren't so ignorant and 'enslaved'. How incredibly patronising.

    Do you get that black people know that conservative white people like you talk about them like this? Do you get that they know you basically think they are stupid? (and don't kid yourself, that is what you are saying). Has it occurred to you that black voters know the history of the Democratic party better than you ever will, and know damned well why they vote for them? Have you made the connection yet between your attitude and the way black people vote?

    They would rather vote for a party that used to treat them badly in the past than one that treats them as stupid, ignorant children (or worse) in the present. They would rather vote for a party whose voters largely consider them equals than one whose voters look down on them as stupid & ignorant. I don't honestly expect you to get it, but you don't have ignorance as a defence.
     
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    So you think blacks didn't fight for freedom?

    Do you know who Gaspar Yanga is?
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    Do you know who John Horse is?
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    This fantasy that blacks were willingly enslaved is idiotic -- many of them fought for their freedom, some were successful, some were not. The reason more blacks began voting democrat was due to the policies the democrats pushed -- they didn't vote democrat because they thought democrat politicians loved them -- that is why attempts at saying "LBJ was racist" is silly when it was still LBJ who signed the Voting and Civil Rights Act into law -- so blacks felt they had more opportunity to influence the Democrat party into crafting policies that served their needs -- sort of like any other ****ing voter would do.

    From the article:
    "We USED to vote Republican. However, when our economic interest no longer lined up with Republicans, we began to switch parties. The New Deal held some promising prospects for Black people, especially farmers. During the Civil Rights Era, we cut ties with the Republican party and never looked back"

    Since I know plenty of black conservatives, none of them are blind to the fact that their party is more willing to play footsies with white supremacists than the other -- they just prefer the economic policies that Republicans normally push, they are blessed enough to be in the tax bracket that gets the largest tax cuts -- Where I differ with them is in my belief that I support policies that provide the best outcomes for the greatest amount of people possible -- I don't have a "Well I got mine, **** them" mentality.
     
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    This is why blacks need moar protections than other minority groups. The vestigial child assumption costs jobs, responsibility, and a bullet in the brain, if they flinch wrong around a cop.
     
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    according to the history expert, Kanye, Blacks are slaves now, but since the didn't revolt when they were REALLY slaves, they weren't slaves.
     
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    So much silly so little time. Ask yourself a few questions of your own:

    1.How many Jews live in public Housing?

    2. One of the most insidious thing about slavery was how it served to destroy black families. Yet it was no where near as effective at that destruction as the welfare plantation. To be sure the welfare plantation is an equal opportunity destroyer eventually destroying the families of all those who enter it's corrupt and deadly embrace regardless of race creed or color, but that doesn't make it any less deadly to African Americans. So then how else should we characterize those who continuously vote for their own destruction?
     
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    The principles that make up the Democratic party are inherently Jewish in nature which is why noone shames them for their role in that party and the fact that 50% of all donors to the Dems are from them.

    For the rest of it it's 2018 nobody cares about being called racist anymore
     
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    Oh bullshit too. It's telling people that racism conducted against them is for their own good. It's the same old "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, so we're going to go just short of killing you in this beating and then you'll be a real powerhouse" bushwa

    It's done on poor people too, for years. "This guy grew up in a slum and became a millionaire, so we're going to leave all the disease and crime-ridden slums just the same so as to encourage people to get out as people will never get rich unless they're starving, sick and being robbed constantly. Don't thank us now, just load our luggage on that private jet we bought with the urban renewal money and be quick about it. Acapulco awaits.

    Republicans sit around and laugh at whatever poor schnooks believe this. They light up a hundred dollar cigar and polish another story about hard it is to be rich, how all the wealthy are "empty" and "unfulfilled" and all they really want is to be poor and filled with the joy of not knowing where their next meal is coming from.
     
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    the plantation analogy is a good one, because the dem party needs poor, badly-educated people dependent on them. the only difference is this is a plantation you can leave. but you have to make that courageous step.
     
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    No, it's just racist bilge from right wing toadies in denial of the trend in their party since Nixon's "Southern strategy".
     
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    And do what? Vote for people who say they intend to take away most of the benefits that are aimed squarely at helping you to become better educated and less poor? "I see you want to make more money, so I'm taking away that free college you were depending on to get that engineering job. You'll have to make the money to pay for it yourself at that janitorial career you just got laid off from, which will take you so long the age discrimination will be kicking in by the time that's done. Aren't you glad we benign Republicans have been so good at not allowing you to become dependent?"
     
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    Correct, I don't believe many understand why they vote the way they do. Many are starting to ask the pertinent questions though. Questions like "what have we gained since voting for the Democrats?" What many are finding is how much the demographic has lost since supporting the Democratic Party.

    Also, I'm not a so called white person and no I don't think anyone is stupid. I believe that brainwashing is real however and voting for people whose best interest is to undermine their voters demonstrates a manifestation of this brainwashing. And no, if so called black voters knew the history of the Democratic party, they'd hardly vote for them.

    The connection between black people voting Democrat instead of Republican is that hatred from the Republican party is often highlighted while hatred from the Democratic party is hidden. It creates the illusion that only Republicans are capable of hatred when in fact, not only does the Democratic party hate a faction of their own base, they actively undermine this bloc.
     
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    So you basically perform racial attacks on minority groups based on how poor they are? Since there are not many Jews who vote democrat and live in public housing, then of course shaming them by saying their support of Democrats means they are in concentration camps -- that is over the top.

    However, blacks...yea, most of them are on public housing according to republican voters -- however, the fact that the poorest states and counties are usually states that vote overwhelmingly republican -- and the fact that those states and counties have plenty of whites on public housing -- well, that's just different.
     
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    What are Jewish principles?

    And how is the democratic party "INHERENTLY" Jewish??

    How can the democrat party be both the party of the KKK and White supremacy and also be inherently Jewish?
     
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    Well it's a very liberal, secular, and degenerate party and when you look at modern day atheistic and secular forms of Judaism it matches the Democrat Party like peanut butter and jelly.
     

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