Why the Gun Abhorrence in Europe?

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Nice twist and bait .. please show me where I say you don't know your own country .. strange though isn't it that you assume you know my country better than I do :roll:
     
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    The moment they picked up arms against England they became Americans. This goes toward the topic because Europe learned from history what an armed people can do for freedom, and decided to ban guns from their people.

    For example many parts of the United Kingdom like Scotland want independence from Britain, and through unfair policies like allowing English men in Scotland to vote against independence is tyrannical against that minority.

    Even today the Gun abhorrence in Europe oppresses the freedoms of those countrymen...
     
  3. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    You may entertain any romantic concepts you like, but it was colonial Englishmen who committed high treason circa 1775, and they did not become American citizens until after the Declaration of Independence was recognised in 1783. And nobody in Europe subscribes to your extraordinary theories of oppression there. :D
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    again with the treason card.....see? they still hold the grudge that we whooped 'em, twice......see how it grates on their nerves?
    I guess since we won, we are now treasonous bastards? hahahahahahahahahah..............yer so silly:roflol:
     
  5. Leo2

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    LOL, no one has won anything, as it is not a competition. It is fact that the American colonists were Englishmen by nationality, and it is a fact that they committed high treason (whatever their reasons). Those facts are no reflection upon any Americans living today, but they are nonetheless facts. :smile:
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was responding to something different perhaps, you said
    you said
    Now I have to ask what living anywhere matters regarding my response? If it helps I lived in Italy for 5 years but I said "not to me but that is my opinion" in regards to the first bolded line above. Nothing about this is obvious to me.
    Finally I said "I believe you are supporting erroneous conclusions" and I still do as it pertains to the USA being a more dangerous place to live. But that's just me.
     
  7. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    No they weren't Americans until they won independence, and not even then as the reality is that the only TRUE Americans are the native Indians.

    Nothing unfair about the Scottish referendum, the people who are resident in Scotland and eligible to vote are the only ones who can.

    Here is that generalization again .. standard BS really.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    No idea how that response got to be to you, it was posted against another comment.

    I just think it is generally unrealistic to compare crime rates across countries when crimes are reported and data collected in different ways, IMO and after living in the USA for ten years, I found the US to be more of a threatening place to live, hence one of the reasons I came back to the UK.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know...I partly agree but I also know there is a lot of America I feel no threat. I will say that those places that do make me uncomfortable....are gun free, high crime areas. hence my desire to see all Americans be able to defend themselves.
     
  10. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and I personally have no issue with that .. I take issue with some posters assuming that all Europeans have a gun abhorrence, it is just a hasty and erroneous generalization.
     
  11. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Is it not true this September Scotland is voting for independence? They most likely will not get it because the English colonized their people there and the votes will not be enough.

    Many people in Europe during the economic downturn do indeed feel oppressed and betrayed by their respective governments, even in the United Kingdom. They do not get any respect from the wealthy ruling elitist possibly because they are unarmed?
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I concur :smile:
     
  13. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Rubbish

    They won't get it because the independence plan is not strong enough, for a start they would lose the pound as a currency, the EU has already stated that there is no guarantee that Scotland would be allowed membership, numerous high investment businesses have already stated they will move their head offices from Scotland should independence become a reality .. and there is still the negotiation concerning North Sea Oil & Gas, for which the UK government paid a substantial investment amount into and would require some sort of compensation.

    Furthermore - of the population of Scotland and thus eligible to vote eighty-three per cent of the were born in Scotland, nine per cent in England, 0.7 per cent in Northern Ireland and 0.3 per cent in Wales. - http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/news/census-2011-release-2a
     

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