Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

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    Conservatives can't find the inner strength to give Obama credit for anything. I wonder if it's because Obama's black. It's a sad statement about America if true. It's NOT true for me.
     
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    I guess thats how divided Americans are

    Because I genuinely cant think of a single thing obama did correctly
     
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    In Obama's last 21 months as President, he created almost a half million MORE jobs than Trump has created in his first 21 months. Does that count?
     
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    I have never been distracted from science. I don't argue the scientific data. I argue the political opinion. I am not religious so you are preaching to the choir. I studied Geology, Chemistry, Zoology and Physics in college. Religion doesn't assault anything about science. Some people have decided to put more stock in the bible than in the scientific method. But the bible has nothing at all to do with science and is not and cannot be a substitute for the scientific method. Those who think it does are wrong. It isn't their religions who tell them to abandon common sense. It is their decision.

    I studied science in a Catholic high school. Our teachers were Jesuit brothers and priests. Can't get any more religious than that. Religion and science never clashed there. Everybody understood that the bible was written in the second century before we had a scientific method. Nobody was confused by it. It isn't a problem with religion. It is a problem with a few religious people who abandon common sense.

    Finally, the scientific method moves observations through theory, experiment, peer review and so forth. We are still in the theory stage with climate change. We've had climate change for more than 4 billion years. For the first time some are blaming humanity for it for the first time. It may be true. It may not be. It may become a problem in the future or it may not. It is politics that has raised it to level of "truth" or "fact." Science is still at the theory stage. That, I'm afraid, is reality. Both sides have compelling arguments. You chose one. I'm waiting for the final answers.
     
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    He did a lot of things correctly. The problem is that the things he did correctly were things that you and I didn't want done.
     
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    Considering how deep the recession was when obama took over he ahould have claimed credit for even better job creation

    But he was a former welfare baby with an alien relationship with the private sector

    Trump is going to trounce obamas economic record
     
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    Voting is handled by a local authority. Here it is only handled by Alameda County. The Feds play no role. This is a heavy Democrat ran area. We have no voter suppression that i have ever heard of and i am 80. We also have a bewildering large population here.

    The term is constantly used that there is no evidence that illegals vote here in CA. Trouble is, voter suppression simply does not exist using the Democrats standard of proof.
     
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    Oh, of course you don't get it and now that you put it like that, no wonder. Trump is speaking of the congress. And probably reporters.
     
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    Have you ever personally known anyone who voted more than once in an election? I've lived in 9 states and I've never met one.
     
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    We give obama all the credit he deserves
     
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    Perhaps. . .but could it be because Obama did such a good job with economic recovery that its much healthier now for Trump to work with to create jobs?
     
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    Give us an example where you feel Obama deserves credit.
     
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    Not in my arena of knowledge. And i have lived around the USA as well and never saw voter suppression.
     
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    That’s TDS. Too funny.
     
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    My brother’s keeper program.
     
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    I probably won't make sense here but I see Obama this way. Say the president is a pin. A pin has the sharp end and the blunt end. Democrats never tell me when bragging about him this. Was he being the blunt end or the sharp end?

    It is as tempting to give Trump credit too and of course at that time Democrats grow angry and persist he did not do what the poster alleged he did.

    But the angry poster wants the same kind of information used to praise Obama as they used to blast Trump. A strange habit and it is not a new habit.
     
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    According to the news, Georgia has suppressed an average of 1.5 million voters in each of the last three elections. Do you advocate ignoring these evidences for corruption, and just simply dismiss it out of hand? Or does it concern you that 1.5 million of our fellow citizens were refused the right to vote by Georgia officials?
     
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    Explain how they were refused. I have lived in Georgia for a few months when active duty at Ft. Benning. I was then a loyal Democrat. Things then were far worse yet nobody at that time told me blacks or anybody was suffering from not being allowed to vote.

    As to the press, in the tank for Democrats.

    Do you have a genuine authentic study with names and stories with statistics?
     
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    The Obama recovery was pathetic. It was the worst since the God. It was so bad that many in the low income quintiles thought that Obama never got the US out of recession. The Obamanomics economic policies produced a pathetic 1% real productivity growth rate. What is the source of this Obama delusional thought process - MSNBC ??
     
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    Name one.

    What news ??
     
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    Of course he doesn’t. It’s all fantasy land.
     
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    All obama knew how to do is make excuses for his poor performance

    Now trump comes along and the economy is boomimg and obama is green with envy
     
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    I alteady told libs that I cant think of a single thing obama did right

    But if I ever hear of one I will give him credit
     
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    All that is interesting considering Obama kept GW Bush's economic expert thru his administration to lead the recovery effort. That means Obama used the Republican, conservative program for the recovery. If it failed, and it was a Republican leading it for Obama, what does that say about the effectiveness of the Republican economic policies? The situation was created in Bush's administration, and Bush's men working with Obama failed to fix it. But of course, conservatives blame Obama. How cute.
     
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    That's ridiculous. Where do you get this BS ??

    Read my post on the housing bubble/financial crisis and stop embarrassing yourself.

    Who is this Bush economic expert that you claim engineering Obamanomics ?? Too funny.
     

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