Why These High School Girls Don’t Want a Transgender Student in Their Locker Room

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not ridiculous at all. If there were no sexual aspect to trans, then it would be the LGB community with no "T"
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well, yes there is. Sexual meaning reference to sex as in male and female. Sexual orientation is the orientation toward male or female.

    Nine of it really has anything to do with sexual intercourse.

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    Among other things absolutely.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So people aren't gay or lebian or bisexual because of who they are attracted to? T's are not proper fits to the LGBT community unless it is about their sexual attraction.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Of course they are.
    Who made that rule?
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes the vast majority of trans people are really really straight. Got in beachfront property in Wyoming you want to sell me too? :roll:
     
  6. Polydectes

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    I don't recall claiming they were straight.

    I was asking who made the rule that lgbt should only include sexual orientations.

    I haven't heard that one before. If you are saying it's not a sexual orientation to be transgender, I would agree. But that isn't the rule about lgbt. They can include anybody they want. If you don't understand why I can explain.
     
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    T should not be with LGB.
     
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    Why???
     
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    Maybe this L wants to include the Ts. Trans people still have a sexual orientation. Some trans people are straight, some gay and some bi. Their gender identity helps to define their sexual orientation. Are they male to female attracted to women? Or maybe they're male to female and into men. Their gender identify and sexual orientation are all part of the same whole. And why do you care? LGBT is a minority, but we are stronger all together. Any Ts out there, just ignore this poster. This L is glad you're part of my acronym :)
     
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    Then rather than an alphabet (I noticed you left off "Q"s so then I suppose I should post that you are a bigot against "Q"s to be consistent with most posting on these threads) - why not just make it "non-heteros?"

    Personally, in my opinion declaring that sexual orientation and gender identity are the same topics and issues is a very bad idea for many reasons.
     
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    Q is often used instead of all the letters. I could say queer rather than LGBT. There are a slew of other letters like I and A, which is why I like to use queer. In forums like this though it's hard to read tone, and enough people think of "queer" as an insult that I'm careful with typing it. Frankly I don't care what people are, as long as they are happy, safe and not hurting anyone.
     
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    I 100% agree with you, as in absolutely.
     
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    My understanding is that the Q stands for questioning

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    Except if they are transgender.
     
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    More ridiculous straightsplaining.

    Who put either one of you in charge? Nobody, and you aren't.

    It's not a coaltion based solely on sexual orientation. It's one formed by people who have been the target of laws that use sex classification as a means to marginalize those who don't conform to the artificially restrictive privileging of cisgender heterosexuality.

    Typical though that some people feel oh so superior that they think they should get to dictate to us what our coalition is allowed to be about and who we can have in it.
     
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    Except it is claimed that being trans is NOT a "sexual orientation." It is a "gender identity." Get your word choice correct. Precisely correct word usage is critically important in these discussions. Obviously your messages must be an anti-gay bigotry or you'd have gotten it right. :smile:
     
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    Strawman. I didn't claim that being trans is a sexual orientation.

    My word choices were just fine.

    Your not doing yourself any favors with this crap. All it does is continue to lower by opinion of you and reinforce your reputation for dishonesty.
     
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    You're correct. I misread your message. Oh well.
     
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    Actually the people who fee superior are the gays and lesbians. As much as they preach tolerance, quite a few of them are just as viscous toward bisexuals and trans people as straight conservatives are.
     
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    I suppose LBM and KKK should really be grouped together because they both concern racial matters and both groups are marginalized by mainstream society. Rather than posting BLM really people should post LBM/KKK.

    Why is it that some lesbians are offended by those who declare they are in the exact same category of people as is Catlyn Jenner and other she-male trannies in relation to mainstream society?
     
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    delete
     
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    Who the hell cares if it isn't a sexual orientation?
     
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    Painting with a pretty broad brush there. Doesn't change a thing about your earlier straightsplaining to us concerning who should be allowed in our coalition.

    In other words, your response bespeaks a desperation to change the subject.
     
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    No idea what you're talking about now, but it's probably safe to assume it's something absurd.

    Ask them if you want an answer. I assume you don't - that you're just baiting.
     
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    I don't know what "straightsplaining" is nor do I care to know what kind of bigoted code you care to come up with is like a middle school girl all giddy because they are gossiping in their own "secret language". There is quite a presence of people in the LGBT community who are hateful as hell toward other members of the LGBT community and then act put upon if someone outside the LGBT says anything similar. Queens are not a stereotype. They are a reality.
     
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    Well, there's the crux of the issue - wanting to be the judge of other people without any desire to understand their individual circumstances or what they're saying. Thanks for confirming that.

    And water is wet. This is not news.

    And that's where you've got it twisted. Me telling you exactly what I think of your nonsense has nothing to do with hating other groups of people within the LGBT coalition. Nice job though of trying to twist and turn your way out of pretending to be so superior to LGBT people that you should get to dictate who should or shouldn't be part of our coalition.

    And using the reality of their existence in order to stereotype all gay people is still prejudiced and wrong.

    Now, go try this BS with someone who doesn't see right through your crap. It's not flying with me.
     

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