why those who deny evolution are incorrect

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  1. Independentmind114

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    The united states is the joke of the educated world because of our handling of evolutionary theory in schools. It is the best attempt at truth we have. they even teach it at christian colleges. Anyone who could take a truley objective look at the theory and remove your religeon from your interpretation, and still say evolution is not a sound scientific theory either has brain damage or is not intelligent enough to understand the content of what they are looking at(which im sure many of you are not). The church has warped your patterns of thinking into shuting out anything that does not jive with the christian idea of truth. Science is not ''truth" its our best attempt at understanding truth. The bible as a work of literature is completly valid, but as text used to validate rejecting reason!? how can creationists enjoy modern life using so many personal items, modes of transportation, industrial practices and health practices ALL of which were derived using the same basic scientific method which produce the theory of evolution?? yet denying one of the core concepts of a MULTITUDE of scientific disciplines. The fact that it was derived from scientific method, and that a large number of other core theories came from this method, does not make it inherintly correct. But over 100 years of standing up to blistering scruteny and never once faltering does make it the best interpretation of our physical world.Claiming the data is flawed or skewed is not valid. Peer review removes this problem. Having oppisition to the theory which is not based on empirical data is a pathetic.

    If you deny evolution how can you explain fossil fuels? Pre modern humans? Life that occured beyond the scope of the bible?

    Galileo galilei ? subjected to massive persecution for challenging what the church held as truth. resistence is expected.

    I truely challenge all of you who have the audacity ( or incompitence) to deny evolutionary theory to go to your local university and try and listen in on a few lecture with an open mind, placing aside what was indoctrinated into your mind, drilled into your thought.
     
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    Well, only partly so. The part of USA that is a joke to the world is also a joke to another part of the USA, namely the part that is taken very seriously as far as education and science is concerned. Fortunately it seems that the latter part is far bigger than the former. It's just less noisy.
     
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    freeware im not sure what you mean here please do explain. are you suggesting that the scientific community within the usa is a joke to the rest of the U.S . or something else
     
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    I'm pointing out that since USA is respected in all parts of the world for scientific engagement, skills and ingenuity, she cannot as a whole be said to be a joke to the world. It is only the part of USA that still lives in medieval darkness and eagerly puts religious fanaticism on display.
     
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    And what part of the USA would that be?

    Quantrill
     
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    Nothing about my gasoline suggests to me that it is the multi-million year old remains of living creatures from long ago.

    But you have accepted that because someone else told you even though you have no means whatsoever with which to verify such a proposal.

    Have you seen what scientists are actually working with when they come up with all of these assumptions about the past? Little specks of rock is what it looks like and what it IS for all WE know. Stop treating them like prophets. Demand that they present their actual evidence. What they've actually got is pretty sad compared to the great claims to know everything that they make.

    How long has radioactive decay been observed? So how ON EARTH could any scientist say with certainty that it has been constant and consistent throughout earth's history?
     
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    Petroleum Engineers that see this will laugh their asses off at you.
     
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    Yes maytah you don't know anything about science have you ever read a real scientific journal in a publication that uses peer review?? Probably not, they are usually some of the most comprehensive documents around. And yeah don't be an idiot lol don't you know anything about the fuel that powers your life don't you know what they do to produce it? And about the evidence EVERY scientific claim is backed up by data which can be reproduced under the given procedure that knows how to read and perform. And I mean every last one that holds merit in the world so your criticism is based on a false pretense . Your ignorance on the way the world acquires real knowledge is staggering
     
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    My computer works through the power of prayer because science in wrong. In fact, it's not even plugged in!
     
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    Evolution is part of God's plan of creation so species can adapt to changing environment.

    Science wants to pervert this to come against the creation theory
     
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    Yeah if you stick your head reaallly far up your @$$ the holy Trinity will power your computer and keep your feet firmly placed on the flat earth which is right in the center of the universe
     
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    Praise the lord brother! Tell me, do you bother plugging your computer in or like me are you just using the monitor and keyboard?
     
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    I am on a laptop running on the battery LOL
     
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    Lmfao! The creations theroy that is based 100% on self reinforcing FICTIONAL LITERATURE! its a creation myth, not theory read what a scientific theory is, that's not one because it doesn't meet the requirements. What English slang theorey and true theory are is two different things. Open your mind seriosuly your thought patterns are warped!
     
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    One word: Falsifiability.
     
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    This is historical fact. It has a book and everything.
     
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    He's serious, nothing in that book is remotely wrong, for I have faith in it's doctrine.
     
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    So the Bible is false? Jesus never lived? King David never lived?
     
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    The Jews never built the pyramids either.
     
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    Yeah there are huge discrepancies in the Bible lol why do you take it as fact that Jesus livdd and even he did what proves he was beyond human? That joke about war of the worlds actually rankest sense remove the church from the voice in your head for 10 min and criticaly think about it. There is nothing to affirm the Bible as truth beyond its own declaration as truth. And the structure built to support it ( the church ) does not validate it because the church has its doctrine based of that very self asserting work. What do you have to say to this? Evolutionary theory has mountains of data of repeatable info to support it. What does Christianity have to support its claim? Nothing. And don't discretid the evidence in response lol because it all has been harshly examined and reviewed lol
     
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    Historians prove the history of the Bible. If that is true why is creation can not be true?
     
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    Historians can certainly describe the history of the Bible (when and where the texts were written and how they got included or rejected to form the collection of scripture in what is now known as the Bible) but that has nothing to do with any veracity of the doctrinal contents of the book.

    This is like saying that knowing the history of Aesop and his authorship means that foxes can not only contemplate the sourness of grapes but also talk about it.
     
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    Yes, USA has good scientists.

    But your religious nut cases seriously scare the crap out of the rest of the world.

    Isn't most your Government made up of religious nut cases? Those scary Tea Party freaks?

    It's really hard to tell what proportion of the USA is made up of religious nut cases for the rest of the world, but anyone would put religious nut cases before scientists in defining their opinion of the USA....
     
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    Ahh, there it is right there. Religion and beleif in GOD is considered to be fanaticism to someone such as yourself who seems to be claiming expert status on this matter.

    I always looked upon science as a study in theory where one often has to contemplate the differences between abstract thought (theory), fanaticism and 'junk' science in order to make a reasonable guess as to which one you finally cave into.

    My bible makes no reference to a "Beam me up Scotty" or "Star Wars" or "junk science" fanaticism with our genesis.
     

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