Why Xtofascism is a Bad Idea for We the People of America?

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Christmas = Xmas

    Christofascist = Xtofascist

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas#:~:text=The 'X' comes from the,Old English word for Mass.

    FYI the term Christofascist has been around for something on the order of 80 years now. It was coined to describe the same convergence of fascism and extremist Christianity that we see happening in the news on a daily basis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris...term,the liberation theologian Dorothee Sölle.


    Disclaimer: I am not calling anyone in this forum a Xtofascist. The objectives of this OP are to EXPOSE the HARM that Xtofascism is doing to our nation and OPTIONS to AVERT and/or MITIGATE this HARM.


    Best place to start is in the HEARTLAND of the BIBLE BELT where Xtofascism ORGINATES.

    Before I realized I was trans I used to crossdress in the PRIVACY of my own home, my immediate family were aware of it. I did so for the same reasons this unfortunate VICTIM of Xtofacism.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alab...nd-died-by-suicide_n_6547b70de4b01b258584135c

    Just stop and think about this for a moment.

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    This was a "good man" who "served" his community and did NOTHING WRONG!

    But the local rabid Xtofascists chose to EXPOSE him from WITHIN their own RANKS?

    Is this the BEGINNING of a SELF CLEANSING where only the PUREST of the PURE are ALLOWED to be Xtofascists?

    This person did NOT deserve this FATE!

    They SHOULD have been ACCEPTED because in every other aspect this person was a "perfect fit" for their White Xtian Male BOX.

    I know the URGE that he experienced because it was the SAME one that I experienced.

    I also know WHY he committed SUICIDE because he was FACING the same OSTRACIZATION that I faced had I been OUTED against my will. He had probably prayed endlessly over this matter and made peace with it between himself and his god. But once he faced the WRATH of the Xtofascists he was left with NO other OPTIONS. He understood that remaining ALIVE would do more HARM to his FAMILY so he chose to NOT expose THEM to any further DENIGRATION because of his crossdressing.

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    Like it or not ONE out of FIVE of us is LBGTQ irrespective of self identification.

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    One out of TEN of those who self identify as LBGTQ are trans which comes to about ONE out of FIFTY in the population as a whole.

    That means that out of 5420 residents of Smiths Station, Alabama, there are about 1084 who are LBGTQ and 108 who are Transgender.

    One less now all because Xtofascists EXPOSED someone as being a Xdresser in their midst.

    What does this mean on a BROADER scale, a NATIONAL scale if Xtofascists were to TAKE POWER over all three branches of government?

    My own neighbors already KNOW that I am trans and I make no secret of it either.

    Xtofacists have ALREADY established that WILL pass legislation making it ILLEGAL for me to be trans and to have access to HEALTHCARE.

    I am sure some reading this OP will be ALL for that to happen.

    But what about when it comes to the FRIENDS and FAMILY members of the Xtofascists like the late "Bubba" Copeland? There are a LOT more out there than the Xtofascists are WILLING to ACCEPT.

    If Xtofascists DECIDE to PURGE their ranks of Trans people that will be just TWO out of hundred, no big deal, right?

    But WE all KNOW that is NOT going to satisfy the them, they will go after the rest of the LBGTQ community and then it will be 20% who will be PURGED.

    Give them an inch and they will take a mile as the saying goes. Authoritarians are big on PURITY and PURGES and Xtofascists are NO exception.

    In essence Xtofacism presents an EXISTENTIAL THREAT to our nation from WITHIN.

    Please do not waste all of our time with DENIALS about Xtofacism because that would just be an INSULT to the memory of Bubba Copeland and his bereaved family.

    Instead I would rather focus on what We the People can and must do to EVADE this imminent THREAT to ourselves.

    What measures, besides voting, can we take to make ALL of our communities, both RED and BLUE, for the 20% of us who are LBGTQ?

    How can we go about introducing ACCEPTANCE into neighborhoods?

    What should we do when we ENCOUNTER the kind of MALICIOUSNESS that resulted in a needless death of a GOOD person?

    Just "thoughts and prayers" or do we say ENOUGH ALREADY?

    In the broader political context we see that the Zionist (AKA Fascist) Israeli government being CONDEMNED worldwide for their ATROCITIES against the Palestinian people. That demonstrates a SHIFT in ATTITUDE against what was ONCE deemed "acceptable violence" towards "others".

    We live NOW and our FUTURE is what We the People CHOOSE for OURSELVES, that is ALL of us, not just the SUBSET that embraces Xtofacism.

    Unlike Bubba Copeland we DO have OPTIONS. However they are worthless unless we take ACTION to EXERCISE them.

    What actions should we take NOW and in the future to INCLUDE and ACCEPT those of us who don't exactly fit into those heteronormative boxes?
     
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    How about a campaign to demonize Xtofascists?
     
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    Christmas is the best Holiday. Not sure what you talking about here.
     
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    Impossible to sink lower than the Xtofascists themselves, as linked in the OP.
     
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    This is true. Love Christmas! But the point is that nobody should use this fact to move non-heterosexual people to commit suicide.
     
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    Haven't seen that happen, and shame on anyone who would do that!
     
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    How about passing laws and jailing Xtofascists?
     
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    Why sink to the same level as Xtofascists who have already passed HUNDREDS of laws to CRIMINALIZE women, medical practitioners and transpeople?

    They also want to imprison anyone anyone who HELPS any of the above.
     
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    Looks like we have an answer to at least one of the questions in the OP as to how to respond to Xtofascism here in America.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ohio...te-constitution_n_65411b43e4b0ae2dc0b56c1a?tr

    We the People EXERCISED our RIGHT to VOTE for what is BEST for ALL Americans.

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    Given this was a RED state where many attempts had been made to OUTLAW abortion these Election RESULTS are a CLEAR sign that We the People REJECT the Xtofascist anti-abortion AGENDA.

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    https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/state/ohio/party-affiliation/

    Without seeing the Exit polls we can only go by what we know are the OH state party affiliation demographics above.

    In order to achieve a RESULT of this magnitude virtually every single INDEPENDENT would have to have voted AGAINST the Xtofascist Agenda. The Exit polls will give us a better insight but to see a SWING of this MAGNITUDE is a clear indication of the REJECTION of Xtofacism.

    Winning by DOUBLE DIGITS in a Red state on the same abortion issue that the GOP has used for DECADES as a means to MOTIVATE their base is an INDICATION that 2024 is going to be about who ends up CONTROLLING our nation.

    FTR this is NOT the only time we have seen this PUSHBACK on this same issue in Red States.

    Women will NOT accept being OPPRESSED by Xtofacism.
     
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    Because it would save trans lives.
     
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    Your anti Christian bigotry is duly noted.
     
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    Your failure to comprehend the thread topic is duly noted.
     
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    No one is except they themselves. Christianity is all but dead in Europe but suicide rates for trans folk there are not significantly different than they are here. There are no xtofascists. A note the difference in suicide rates before and after surgery aren't significant either here or in Europe. If anything in fact there is a slightly greater chance post surgery. The problem of course is that while surgery can change what you look like it cannot change who you are and who you are is a mental/emotional thing not a physical thing. So until you address the mental and emotional issues, that are causing the problem all the surgery in the world isn't going to help you though it will make some doctors rich.
     
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    The thread is anti-Christian bigotry.
     
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    IMHO, commercialism has ruined it. Our family goes to extremes to keep it simple but it still feels like an unnecessary spending spree.

    Maybe it’s always been that way? It’s certainly a season of excess.
     
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    Hmm yeah I get what you are saying. I enjoy it enough where it doesn't bother me too much, and live in an area where you can avoid the commercial aspects of it. I just love the meals, the lights, the movies, and since I have kids I enjoy the excitement.
     
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    Xtofascism is the DEFINITION of BIGOTRY.

    GENUINE Christians are OPPOSED to Xtofascism.

    https://sojo.net/articles/jewish-leaders-are-fighting-christofascism-anti-trans-legislation

     
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    Looks like another aspect of Xtofascism FAILED against We the People.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/moms-for-liberty-elections_n_654bf7fbe4b0e63c9dc2172e

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/moms...up-by-watchdog-org_n_6480d572e4b025003edafed6

    We the People are REJECTING the EXTREMISM of Xtofascism in ALL areas where they are attempting to OPPRESS and INTIMIDATE teachers, students, schools administrators and librarians.

    The THREAT of Xtofascism is REAL and it looks like We the People are NOT going to allow it to DESTROY our nation.
     
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    @Derideo_Te

    I just got to your thread, as I was about to sign off, so I am only offering a few miscellaneous comments (instead of my typically profound analysis). First, the composer Maurice Ravel (whose "Bolero" is associated with lovemaking) used to wear dresses at home, while he composed; it relaxed him.


    2) Your chart, showing the growing prevalence of those identifying as LGBT, in each succeeding generation, is interesting, as it suggests that this could well be a cultural phenomenon; while some on the Right might suggest it is due to "brainwashing," it seems much more likely, to me, to be the opposite: namely, that societal expectations had forced more people to deny their natures, in the past, but fewer have been doing so, as society has become more accepting of them.

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    3) I was going to say there are seemingly small errors, or unexplained inconsistencies, in the math, but then I read the small print, saying that people could choose more than one answer. However this table doesn't seem to jibe with your second table:

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    The first table, for example, only lists 0.8% of the "silent generation," as being gay-- which seems much too low, though what it is really telling us, is the percent who will admit to being gay, in a phone survey-- but the second table lists 47% of that generation as gay, which cannot be correct, either.
     
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    That is the most logical reason for the increase and it is substantiated by older surveys.

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    Just two years ago only 1.3% of Traditionalists/Silent generation and 2.0% of Boomers self identified as LBGTQ.

    Those numbers have INCREASED to 1.7% and 2.7% respectively.

    There is an anomaly with GenX DECLINING but Millennials have also INCREASED.

    The only explanation that fits this increase in such a relatively short period of time is the greater ACCEPTANCE available.

    Speaking personally as a Boomer I was NOT included in the 2.0% in 2020 but I am part of the 2.7% in 2022.

    Your assessment is correct however I suspect that the problem has more to do with level of understanding of those responding to the questions than anything else.

    The concept of being trans is relatively recent in comparison to how long we have been aware of homosexuality. Not many people can grasp how it is possible to have a brain that isn't wired the same way as the genitals are.

    The 2nd table ONLY includes those who self identify as LBGTQ hence it is a smaller subset of the first. That second smaller subset is then grouped by further self identification WITHIN the LBGTQ community. I self identify as LBGTQ and within that as Trans. The majority of the LBGTQ community are homosexual, lesbian or bisexual. A person who is bisexual is technically heterosexual with an opposite sex partner and homosexual with a same sex partner.

    This leads to confusion because these categories were defined before we had the same degree of knowledge we do today. Unfortunately we cannot retrofit our current knowledge onto past polling which results in things NOT jibing as we would prefer them to be.

    These numbers are snapshots and rather than take them as gospel I prefer to use them identify TRENDS instead. The trend is towards a growing ACCEPTANCE by society as a whole.

    The Trans community would still be largely INVISIBLE to the general population if it weren't for the Xtofascists deciding to DEMONIZE them IMO. While this despicable UNCHRISTIAN hatred of transpeople is causing a great deal of needless HARM the upside is that it has EXPOSED just how DANGEROUS the Xtofascists are when it comes to our American Way of Life where FREEDOM to be YOURSELF is a founding principle.

    When the Xtofascists TARGETED gay marriage We the People pushed back and now it is a non-issue because society has ACCEPTED that gays have the SAME rights as everyone else does.
     
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    We the. People did no such thing. It was diktat by
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