Wild Boar In Germany Have Radio Active Contamination

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  1. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how this happens, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is happening.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/nprberl...ive-plague-another-reason-to-avoid-wild-boars

    NOT OPINION:
    The way nations government are handling technology of many types is not proper. It is destructive to our futures.
     
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    Wait so did I read this right?

    Boars are feasting on radioactive plants around the Chernobyl site and then they're migrating some 900 miles to Germany where they are hunted and then could poison people who eat them?

    So what we have is a destructive element migrating across borders.

    Ok, so, would it not make sense to install some sort of barrier to prevent the boar from being able to access the plants around Chernobyl?

    A ...wall, like ...a wall?

    Like ...build a wall to stop this migration related disaster?
     
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    I thought at first the boar were migrating, but 1400 miles in the lifespan of a boar just is not going to work.

    A little research on microbiology came up with an explanation.

    Radioactive fallout in the soil is processed by mushrooms at a rate no other plant can equal. The mushrooms tend to grow densest at low points that are wetter. This is also where physically low mass particles of heavy metal end up.

    The boar can smell the truffles which are actually underground plants and derive their nutrients fairly well completely around their exterior.

    We are allowng our governments to approve and promote permanent destruction of our healthy environments at a massive rate.
     
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    Good info there, thanks.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I think it's about the dangers of nuclear power not a wall but you seem obsessive on the subject
     
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    Oh dear. Do you have any idea how widespread the nuclear plume (fallout), from Chernobyl was? Clearly not.

    Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ74Rqh7yDE
    And here, in Britain, 1500 miles from Chernobyl. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17472698
     
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    The Chernobyl disaster was about 30 years ago. Fallout at the time reached Germany as well. Cs 137 has a 30 year half life. So, whatever Cs 137 was produced during the incident is now half gone.

    Unfortunately, Cs+ is a K+ mimic, humans and animals have a hard time differentiating between the two. You may have also heard that K+ is the most prevalent cation within cells. Thus, Cs+ 137 moves through the food chain as plants take it up from the soil and animals eat these plants, there is nothing surprising about it.

    But, congrats making this into a partisan post about walls, having nothing to do with the issue at hand.
     
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    Actually, Sr-90 is a calcium congener. May be more dangerous than Cs-137 when it accumulates in bone, but less likely to be taken up, since bone is not typically consumed. Only about 4% of the Cs-137 radioactivity from Chernobyl fallout was from Sr-90.
     
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    You should email the author of that article and tell them to add that in, although it is from 2010 so I doubt they'd care.

    No I didn't and the article didn't give a single sentence explaining that either. It did use the line "creatures as far reaching" which I, given the complete lack of any context, took to mean migration.

    Read above, you two.
     
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    Yes, the "far reaching" comment threw me off too.

    The fact that mushrooms and truffles were included in the article indicates the author knew it was an explanation .

    When I saw Berlin had paid out $500,000 to hunters for fouled meat, I realized a migration of that size would draw serous attention.
     
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    So what antidotes appear best? Amounts? Frequency? Contraindications?
     
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    There is no antidote for radiation poisoning; potassium iodine tablets might help reduce the rate of thyroid absorption but there are no guarantees. You will also need at least 90 days supply of canned food after a fallout event. Chernobyl was the equivalent of a mild cold compared with a full-blown nuclear exchange. There's no recovering from that.

    https://www.campingsurvival.com/nucprot.html
     
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    Yea, that is kinda' what I figured. But, is there protection from the meltdowns we've experienced? Looks like potassium iodine tablets are about it.
     
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    Ferric ferrocyanide has been used to eliminate Cesium-137 from the body. https://www.remm.nlm.gov/prussianblue.htm

    It was used extensively in the Goiânia incident, an abandoned radiotherapy source of Cesium-137 in Brazil that was handled extensively. The cool part is it turns your poop blue.
     
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    This happened in Russia and you want to blame every government on the planet??

    At the same time in Russia their oil field was a total mess. 50% of the wells were producing at less than 50% capacity and only 25% were above 75% and the rest were lost causes. Pipelines leaked all over the place because there was no profit insensitive to stop the leaks. They had a couple of nuclear submarines melt at sea. We know where they are and stay away from them.
     
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    This story is suspicious as it is "According to reporter Charles Hawley".....WTF is that???
     
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    Folks...You get radiated every day. Your body has radiation. Your significant other has radiation. Bananas have radiation. The important factor is the 'microsieverts' received. Do any of you have a link to actual radiation levels experienced by humans from these pigs?
     
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    Yes, and we can see that Russian environmentalism is in the dark ages. So far America with Hanford, Russia with Chernobyl, and Japan with h, qualify as some of the most powerful nations, and they screwed up badly.

    Now we have a president who is behaving like a Russian with his stance on environment. It is time to take a stand because damage can be done to our air and water that is irrepairable.
     
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    The German government has a reason for requiring the meat of all pigs shot in Saxony tested. And Berlin is paying the hunters for the contaminated animals. There must be a reason, or are Germans stupid?

    An effort to promote over generalization and all or nothing thinking, cognitive distortions, in a topic like that is a mark of a cognitive infiltrator.
     
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    I wouldn't say most Germans are stupid but I would say that their government is.

    HUH?
     
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    I was stationed in Germany when Chernobyl went up, the fallout encompassed a lot of Europe.
     

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