Will Generation Gimme work for the American Dream?

paying off student loans? Did you miss that? They want the government to pay for their education. They're willing to turn over their lives and freedom to the government for, they think, monetary benefits. They won't know what they've done till it's too late and their grandchildren will ask them what the h they were thinking.

 

The education system USED to work. But it has been so dumbed down since the late 40's and with greater ardor since the 60's.

But let's talk about the greedy people. Do you know that people who have no children pay for education of others thru their taxes local, state and federal? And they've not said a word. MEanwhile, our so called educators have singlehandedly placed us in the position that we now find ourselves. Even adults on this board are anti-american, anti western civilization products of the lefts hatred.

 

I have to agree. I find it horrifying that fully 25% of kids are functionally illiterate, which means a SIXTH GRADE educational level. We take 12 years to teach a kid to read to 12 year old standards (and i won't scare you with mathematics) and 1/4 of our kids can't do that. Forget the Spanish Mainland, you're looking at a Rome.

I think the only solution at this point is to go to some sort of grants to private schools. Public schools are glorified day-care centers.

 

You need both. You need your country's rich, to man up and do their bit, like they did during previous financial issues.

 

WHERE do you get the idea that the so called Rich aren't paying their fair share?? from the left!! HOW CAN you say the 'rich' don't pay when fully 40 plus percent in this country do not pay taxes and stand in line with their hands out. And i might add drive nice cars, wear nice clothes and use food stamps at the grocery store. The PROBLEM is the 40PLUS % entitlement whores who continue to buy the left's propaganda and haul in their goodies at everyone else's expense.

 

Wow you all sound like such old people. I am 26. I worked my way up from 25k to 60k and I got some more working to do. I owe student loans, I own a house, I take care of my gf and my daughter. One little silly report on Fox News apparently certifies your belief that young people have it to easy I guess? I work harder for what I have than any one in my family ever had to, and not once have I ever taken a government handout. I refused. If I was bad off enough I would ask charity for help not the government. Remember that next time you make generalizations and assume some report to be the truth about all young people that, the vast majority still got their head on straight.

 

Both Ronald Reagan and Warren Buffet have both been on record as having said so.

 

The top 25% of income earners in America pay 70% of the revenues collected by the US Government. How much more should they pay? 80%? 90%?

Give me a number here.

I keep hearing "the rich" should pay more. But no one ever comes up with a number.

I just put up a factual statistic. The top 25% pays 70% of the incoming revenues. So please tell me what percentage of revenues collected by the US Government should be collected from the top 25% of income earners in America?

 

My belief is the top should pay Clinton-era taxes, and it should fade out going down, until we all pay Clinton era taxes. It sucks in the short term I know, but that along with sensible spending cuts will bring the value of our dollar up, our debt to China down, and keep us up longer in the long run.

 

Hell, the people who HAVE the American dream have never worked for it. Work is for schmucks.

 

I live what I consider to be the American dream and I worked rather hard.

 

It is leaping to conclusions to think that this professors experience is consistent with every individual within this generation. If 20% differed that shows a pretty large number who know they will have to work to achieve their goals. The others will certainly learn.

Our educational system is becoming more and more a for profit interest. Like any product they claim to be invaluable. It is possible that these students are repeating promises they have heard about getting an education.

In any case wouldn't everyone like to work less and make more money? Don't we all want more responsibility and less consequence? They are living in the dream of inexperience.

 

It has? In what aspect? Isn't everything non-profit?

 

Elucidate.

 

Aren't schools public for the most part? Aren't private universities non-profit, for the most part?

 

No, nearly all universities are for profit. They are businesses first educators second.

 

Whatever...it's gone my friend. We're a Walmart nation now.

 

I'm not an economist; I don't have the numbers to be able to calculate it (and balance the USA's deficit).

Herein lies the problem. You keep on giving numbers, which never relate to the % an individual gives, you only give numbers relating to a specific group or demographic. Neat trick, but really very transparent.

And for the record, I'm not targetting the "rich". Clearly if a significant % of poorer people are not paying anything, this is also wrong. My Mum and Dad made me pay them a small lodging fee at the age of 16, when I earned very very very little. I paid it and was happy to. Of course they were teaching me a life lesson to pay my way, which I do. Now I'm on a pretty good income and am of the view that my level of income tax should be higher than people who earn less than me.

But lets be clear (and people seem to forget the reality of progressive income tax):

example (NOT my suggestion for actual tax bands)

0 - 19,999 euros - 20%
20,000-39,999 euros - 30%
40,000 > - 40%

In this example, if a person earns 50,000 euros, they only pay 40% tax on 10,000 euros, they only pay 30% tax of 20,000 euros and they pay 20% tax on the other 19,999 euros.

People seem to forget this when talking about tax bands.