Do you honestly believe that 10% of the population could dominate 90% of the population and experience NO repercussions? As bad as SA is now, a civil war (which is what was on the horizon) would have been a lot worse. Not only would the whites in SA have been overrun by the blacks in their own country, but blacks from neighbouring countries would have poured in to slaughter whatever whites were left. You should be thanking those SA liberals.
You anti-racists are such hypocrites... I love it. White people went to South Africa and built it into a world super power. Oh I forgot, blacks are phobic of progress and they were much happier living in their mudhuts chasing their dinners with a spear. You're one of those anti-racists that think black "people" can do no wrong and the White man is the devil, aren't you? As they always say... anti-racism is a code word for anti-White. The slow, torturing death White South Africans are facing today is no different to the deaths any civil war would bring about. Infact, the only difference is Whites would have an opportunity to take a few black Africans with them as they were killed. So I won't be thanking any liberal...
The dumb asses in south Africa deserve what happens all over Africa when whites are removed. They teach that private property means NOTHING. They teach RACE WAR, it is fine to steal and murder whites, it is your RIGHT. All over Africa large framing has been confiscated and small slash and burn farmers leave regions once able to feed their people STARVING. Blacks who believe it their RIGHT to be above the law because of past transgression deserve the resulting chaos of their countries. corrupt leaders looking to curry favor. It happens in America as well.
As long as no one has a good rationalization on why racism is good for anything other than excluding fellow homo sapiens sapiens from certain groups or activities, why not admit it is simply a bad idea in modern times and let it go?
The world knows what happens when cultures segregate...it leads to big giant wars. You'll have heard of World War 1 and 2. European countries were knocking ten bells out of each other for centuries before they came along. Now we mix and still maintain different cultures, no problem. We learned that lesson and evolved past it in order to survive and with all the faults organizations like the EU, NATO and UN have, they are effective in lessening conflict within Europe and allow us to become more integrated, mix and work together, understand each other's issues and peacefully negotiate solutions to our differences which were previously resolved via war. But segregation and racism produce horror. We know this. It is evidenced. Why are you keen to drag your country into regressive behaviour which makes absolutely no sense and has endangered the lives and existence of your people? Segregation is a retrograde step evidenced to lead to conflict, not to peace. It is also much more interesting to interact and exchange ideas and processes with other cultures, all of whom make different but equally valid contributions. The advantages of exchange of ideas and knowledge is what built US into a great nation. SA is not an example of integration yet. It has a difficult history of racism and will have to pass through a period of adjustment requiring a lot of work to achieve peaceful integration. When the people move past that and integrate, problems will resolve. SA people will put you right on what is happening there, but Nelson Mandela achieved freedom for his people many years ago and there hasn't been a white genocide as yet. It was no part of his policy to conduct one and the people have respected his plan this far. You might consider this also. White people (myself included) protested in the streets here in support of Nelson Mandela's release and international pressure from white people is one of the key factors which assisted him in gaining freedom and power in SA. Because white people saw the injustice of that situation, just as they saw it earlier in US law...and insisted the injustice be removed. Racism was publicly held up to the light as disgraceful, inhumane, completely abhorrent and unacceptable and that passed into law with the support of the international community. Good luck convincing them otherwise now. ...you are calling for segregation in US, whilst criticizing the people you imply are trying to establish segregation in SA. When white people invaded SA, Europeans were already experienced in bashing each other to secure 100 yards of border, which they then noticed they would shortly lose again and each time they gained a few feet it cost them a fortune and many lives. They decided instead to take their aggressive military force further afield and carve up the rest of the world. Euros having been at this nonsense for centuries, had developed military force to extreme levels. The rest of the world, being less practised, was getting on with its business. Europe destroyed existing African culture. It also destroyed other beautiful civilized cultures in existence at that time for example, Inca civilization. The loss of these is not just regrettable but criminal. Even after ejecting European culture, the influence remains and it will take time to recover national identity. However, people in SA have shown extensive restraint and have not ejected white people as you might eject non-whites. They also know that restraint allows their country to remain a powerful economy with the economic support of other nations. Some "black" people do no wrong and some white people do no wrong. Are you one of those racists who think white man can do no wrong and black man is the devil? Is it not only you and the others at Stormfront who always say that? The majority of white people are anti-racist for sure. White South Africans tortured and killed non-whites for centuries. Some fought to prevent abolition of apartheid until they were forced to capitulate. There is bound to be a period of adjustment where previously oppressed and oppressor find a way of working and living which is acceptable to all. The world is watching and SA know how it will affect their country if they adopt the tactics previously used against them. So far, they have risen above the behaviour of the white people who previously oppressed them and long may it continue. And the vast majority of whites in UK. Hey Zook, just for you: ...or how about the Editor's Choice at the old Daily Record: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/e...n-mandela-freedom-of-the-city-86908-22039975/ The forum does not seem to be representative of majority US views, as the majority voted a non-white man into power as US President.
1. Racial integration and multi-CULTuralism is responsible for more deaths than many wars fought today. Blacks don't like Whites, they kill, rob and rape Whites. Whites don't like blacks, they participate in White Flight to get away from all the blacks. Muslims look down on infidels, they build close-knit communities and refuse to integrate and adopt the host culture. You have a very twisted view on how multi-CULTuralism works in the real world. Black-on-White homicide rates are through the roof and it's UNACCEPTABLE in what's SUPPOSED to be a CIVILIZED SOCIETY. 2. Racism and segregation solves problems, it doesn't create war. I am notoriously anti-war... it's one of the reasons I don't like black "people" actually. The majority of every race doesn't want to be forced to integrate, we want to be left alone to live amongst our own. Amongst those that understand each of our unique issues. FORCED multi-CULTuralism is a social experiment that's evidenced to lead to astronomical crime rates, violence, murder and eventual genocide, not peace. Why would you want to be a part of that? 3. You display a flag of Scotland. Scotland is still vastly White, you're lucky. But maybe you should refrain from talking about things you don't understand or have first hand experience of, hmmm? You'll "care" about multi-CULTuralism when you're forced to endure it. That, I'm sure about. 4. The disadvantages of multi-CULTuralism by FAR outweigh the advantages. Multi-CULTuralism offers very little by way of positive contributions, but instead poisons our supposedly civilized society with shockingly high crime rates, violence, butchery of our language and grammar, joblessness of the indeginous people as leg-up programs are enforced to help these unqualified 3rd world invaders get work in fields they're not capable of working in, diseases, vandalism, loss of host culture, genocide of the host people and rampant drug dealing. When the cons outweigh the pros it's time to abandon the program altogether. 5. The "poeple" of South Africa are not trying to establish segregation, they are trying to establish genocide. There is a vast difference between "peaceful segregation" (which is what I originally said) and butchering to death the White people who came to your land to help build your smoky pile of rubble you call a country into a world super power. 6. I am one of those people who believes that the majority of all races on Earth are good and decent and the majority of the black "race" are nasty, violent, uncivilized, evil-minded, subhumans with a giant chip on their shoulders. This is what I have observed in my 30+ years on this planet living in majority black neighborhoods in Florida, Texas and now London, UK. Blacks are literally the same where ever you go. You should try and experience the majority black places I have. You'd be far more qualified to enter a discussion about racial issues then. 7. Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White. More and more people are saying this these days because more and more people are noticing the HUGE double standards anti-racists exhibit. Blacks are the most racist cretins on the planet, but none of you criticise them. Instead, you make excuses for them. But one White person is sick and tired of black violence and immorality that even a blind person could notice and all of a sudden he's the most evil bigot since Hitler. We have to accept minorities with open arms here in Europe or in America, but if the White man dares set foot in Africa then he's evil and deserves the brutal murder he usually receives. Whether you're White or you're black, if you're anti-racist it usually means you're just anti-White. 8. When did your self-hatred begin? Have you been indoctrinated to hate your fellow man by your public school teachers or did MTV do it? Why do you think the White man is the most evil being ever to grace the planet after he did so much for you like designing and building you that keyboard you're typing your ungrateful words on? Why can the black "man" do no wrong in your eyes? Are you blind? Mentally incompetent or just don't pay attention to anything except the obviously biased liberal mainstream media? What is the matter with you? Seriously? I'm genuinely curious.
So, what is racism actually good for? And, if you don't have a good answer, why shouldn't racism be considered a form of moral turpitude?
I've already told you. Your ignorance is annoying. Racism leads me to refuse to fraternize, befriend or associate with black "people." Which in turn makes me about 7 or 8 times more likely to remain alive, safe and well than a naive anti-racist like you. http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html Seeing as black "people" are responsible for so much violent crime and murder it should be obvious to even the most dim-witted anti-racist that avoiding them has its benefits. Will you stop trolling this thread now?
I would like to, but you seem to be resorting to a fallacy to make your point. So, I may not be a troll after all, simply because only trolls don't have a good argument. Why do you not believe that it is "racism" that is the Cause of the problem you describe, instead of a solution? In my opinion, we would not be experiencing racism, except for a lack of morals. Because, only a lack of morals by those elected representatives at that time, could have enabled Jim Crow laws and that form of false witness bearing to our own supreme law of the land. And, that lack of efficiency in our economy by requiring official poverty money in money based market under any form of Capitalism, and especially our own mixed-market political-economy.
I would like to, but you seem to be resorting to a fallacy to make your point. So, I may not be a troll after all, simply because only trolls don't have a good argument. Why do you not believe that it is "racism" that is the Cause of the problem you describe, instead of a solution? In my opinion, we would not be experiencing racism, except for a lack of morals. Because, only a lack of morals by those elected representatives at that time, could have enabled Jim Crow laws and that form of false witness bearing to our own supreme law of the land. And, that artificially induced lack of efficiency in our economy by requiring a poverty money in money based markets under any form of Capitalism, and especially our own mixed-market political-economy where money can be a requirement to stimulate our economy.
This is the general gist of your post ----> No, your argument is a fallacy because I said so and whatever I say goes! You see, what makes your argument invalid is that I've lived in black majority neighborhoods practically all my life on both sides of the Atlantic. I bet you don't have the experience I have with black "people." Racism has nothing at all to do with violent black behavior. The blacks in England are worse behaved than the ones in the US as evidenced here... http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/oct/11/black-prison-population-increase-england ...and blacks don't have nearly the negative history of racism in England that they do in the US. Also, research Liberia in Africa. Liberia was never colized by the White man and has no history of racism, but it's commonly regarded as the most hellish place on Earth. Which makes your argument null and void. You have a typical idiotic and ignorant take on violent black behavior. Will you stop trolling this thread now? This is the general gist of your post ----> No, your argument is a fallacy because I said so and whatever I say goes! You see, what makes your argument invalid is that I've lived in black majority neighborhoods practically all my life on both sides of the Atlantic. I bet you don't have the experience I have with black "people." Racism has nothing at all to do with violent black behavior. The blacks in England are worse behaved than the ones in the US as evidenced here... http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/oct/11/black-prison-population-increase-england ...and blacks don't have nearly the negative history of racism in England that they do in the US. Also, research Liberia in Africa. Liberia was never colized by the White man and has no history of racism, but it's commonly regarded as the most hellish place on Earth. Which makes your argument null and void. You have a typical idiotic and ignorant take on violent black behavior. Will you stop trolling this thread now?
You have got no idea about the history of liberia other than what you read on wiki. Otherwise you would know the central role it played in the Atlantic so- called trade.
Exactly, Liberians didn't have the benefit of colonization to pull their spear chucking asses out of the Stone Age. Jared Taylor explains this paradox: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiqaNDRSgIA"]Jared Taylor Explains White Man's Disease - YouTube[/ame] Notice how African countries with lots of colonial investment are generally better off - like South Africa and Namibia, than areas of little or no colonial influence like Liberia.
This is so true. Liberia and Ethiopia were never colonized by the White man and both have struggled immensely compared to every other African nation that had help and free handouts from Whitey. Jared Taylor is a very wise man in a time where being wise is unpopular. A lot of anti-racists live in a cocooned American existence and blame all of black "peoples" problems on slavery. They don't understand that black "people" are just as animalistic and uncivilized all over the planet.
Your anecdotal evidence is just that. Why stop at skin color instead of any distinguishing phenotype?
Go and spend a week in a majority black neighborhood and then come back and dismiss anecdotal evidence. Then I might take you a little more seriously.
It's been a difficult few years for you ... My I suggest some because you're about to get several more.
